So why don't we write our own front end for the DROS system?

[AJAX22]

I think even we all can agree that the ca dros system has a horrible front end which causes a huge number of problems (such as the inability to register a stripped receiver in a way that is not a long gun, or not being able to put aditional long guns on a pistol dros)

so.... What prevents us from writing our own bit of code to access the database? It would be a fairly simple project, and we could make a few small changes which would yield some substantial gains....

And it could be a for proffit venture... The new improved interface software could be marketed directly to ffl's

I know I would like the ability to build up any stripped receiver into either a pistol or rifle... And I would buy a lot more rifles if I could throw them on a pistol dros...

Your thoughts guys?

[Librarian]

While you may propose a better technical solution, it will certainly run into the 'Not Invented Here" syndrome at CA-DOJ. An FFL that used non-certified-by-DOJ software would likely have problems at next inspection.

But sell it to DOJ ....

[AJAX22]

Is there any reason why an ffl couldn't use an alternative front end? Why would doj approval even be needed? Their database can't tell wha is accessing it.. Is there anything in the law restricting what can be used?

[elrcastor]

I doubt DOJ, would like it at all. If we could write our own front end it would actually completly comply with state/federal law and doj would loose a lot of their power.

[AJAX22]

The doj doesn't like a LOT of the stuff that we do....

Frankly I'm of the opinion that the more they dont like it the further it advances our cause (assuming that we stay within the bounds of the law)

so is there any law which restricts what we are looking to do?

[ptoguy2002]

Who wrote the existing software?
And who supplies it?
And who owns it?

ETA: Looks like verizon.

[ptoguy2002]

Can I load my own personal software on my DOJ-issued PC?

Yes; however loading hardware or software to your DOJ-issued PC may invalidate/void the warranty.

So does the DOJ "issue" pc's?

[FS00008]

Not that I know of... my favorite FFL bought his at Fry's.

[Librarian]

The doj doesn't like a LOT of the stuff that we do....

Frankly I'm of the opinion that the more they dont like it the further it advances our cause (assuming that we stay within the bounds of the law)

so is there any law which restricts what we are looking to do?

Probably only DOJ getting in a snit about it.Another part of the DOJ FAQ:

Can I use the personal computer in my store to submit DROS information?

Firearms dealers may use their own computers to submit DROS information if their computer meets the minimum configuration requirements and they have a magnetic card swipe reader. The DROS information is sent via a secure dial-in connection directly to the current DROS contractor, MCI. To determine the minimum PC configuration requirements to submit DROS information, contact the MCI DROS Service Center at 1-800-974-DROS (3767). Please note, however, that Macintosh computers cannot be used. To obtain a magnetic card swipe reader, contact the manufacturer, NewBold, at 1-888-855-7978 and ask for John Miller. You must inform the manufacturer that you intend to use the device with the California DOJ DROS Entry System. The cost for the device is $95.00 plus tax, shipping, and handling.

[AJAX22]

If it will cause a snit, and its not illegal... I know some guys who'd be more than happy to implement it

I wonder if the DROS system details are available through a record request?

[socalblue]

Is there any reason why an ffl couldn't use an alternative front end? Why would doj approval even be needed? Their database can't tell wha is accessing it.. Is there anything in the law restricting what can be used?

Yes, in fact there are laws greatly restricting access to any DOJ system. Think about this - would you want anyone with an FFL able to look into AFS & see that data? Not to mention possibly being able to manipulate the various data sources?

That being said, the current software likely just creates a formatted data file that is sent to DOJ (I would assume that it is encrypted in some manner). In other words, never a connection to the actual data. Creating an application to replace the current front end would likely be a fairly straightforward task.

[tankerman]

Wouldn't it be easier if it was CITRIX based?

[Californio]

Knowing how old the iron the gubmint has its probably, EPSDIC

[sfwdiy]

Wouldn't it be easier if it was CITRIX based?

Never make a suggestion to a government agency that has the potential to improve efficiency. They don't take kindly to that sort of thing.

--B

[Librarian]

Knowing how old the iron the gubmint has its probably, EPSDIC

Those of us old enough to have worked that iron know it's EBCDIC - Extended Binary Coded Decimal Interchange Code.

ASCII me a question! But not about IBM big iron, I was really a DEC guy.

DROS clients are PCs; don't know what the server side is.