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  • fallujahfighter
    Junior Member
    • Jul 2010
    • 9

    Stupid Questions

    Is there a thred for stupid questions that you don't know, but you should know, and are afraid to ask for fear of looking stupid? If not, here it is

    Well here's 3 questions I probably should know and now feel stupid for asking, because I don't.

    What does it meen to have a "button rifled" weapon?

    What is a pinned butt stock?

    What is the California Bullet Button?

    I already feel stupid, please don't make it any worse than it is
    Last edited by fallujahfighter; 07-28-2010, 10:00 PM. Reason: spelling
    The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.
    Thomas Jefferson...

    The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.
    Thomas Jefferson...

    One smart Founding Father. How the hell did he know?
  • #2
    cannon
    In Memoriam
    • Aug 2008
    • 8589

    Originally posted by fallujahfighter
    Is there a thred for stupid questions that you don't know, but you should know, and are afraid to ask for fear of looking stupid? If not, here it is

    Wells here's 3 questions I probably should know and now feel stupid for asking, because I don't.

    What does it meen to have a "button rifled" weapon?

    What is a pinned butt stock?

    What is the California Bullet Button?

    I already feel stupid, please don't make it any worse than it is
    Bud, Everyone here has asked a ton of stupid questions at one time or another. Anybody who tells you otherwise is full of...stuff.

    1, Button rifling is one of several ways the lands and grooves (rifling) are manufactured into a barrel.

    2, A pinned buttstock is a folding stock that is locked (pinned) so it cannot be folded.

    3, A California bullet button is a device that requires a tool to remove a magazine from a rifle with evil features. Common on ARs and AKs. It's used to keep your detachable magazine, pistol gripped rifle legal.

    Good luck and don't be afraid to use the subpar search function.
    Last edited by cannon; 07-27-2010, 9:06 PM.
    ^^ Said by some lunatic on the internet

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    • #3
      Lucky Scott
      Veteran Member
      • Dec 2008
      • 2605

      Never feel bad asking a question, we all gotta learn sometime.
      I have asked my fair share of stupid questions. Someone here will usually give me the answer.

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      • #4
        Regulus
        Senior Member
        CGN Contributor
        • Aug 2008
        • 1156

        Originally posted by cannon
        Good luck and don't be afraid to use the subpar search function.
        Google works too...
        Great thread. Will probably post here myself.

        Button Rifling:

        From: http://firearmsid.com/A_bulletIDrifling.htm

        Probably the most common method used today to rifle barrels is button rifling. Button rifling uses a different approach to forming the grooves in the barrel. A button as seen below is a very hard steel plug that is forced down an unrifled barrel. The grooves are then formed in the barrel under very high pressure. The pressure created to form the rifling in the barrel hardens and polishes the inside of the barrel.




        Pinned Buttstock:

        I'm guessing this is what you were looking for with the pinned buttstock:




        Bullet Button:

        From RifleGear

        The Bullet Button is a product that allows the shooter to drop a magazine with the use of a tool. It prevents finger manipulation of the mag release, and creates a condition allowable under current individual interpretations of California law.

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        • #5
          Wicked Pete
          Calguns Addict
          • May 2010
          • 5182

          There are no stupid questions. There is so much new information about firearms and shooting that it would be impossible to know everything. I just found out what a Bullet Button was all about.

          I appreciate that the members here on CGN don't come on like "know-it-all's" and imply that you lacking in intelligence. At least the members I have seen, are glad to help with information and are not "talking down to you".

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          • #6
            Ricky-Ray
            Veteran Member
            • Jan 2010
            • 3161

            I've got one.

            What's a featureless AR???? I saw somewhere on a thread that a featureless AR doesn't need a bullet button. Is that true?
            Ray

            "If you lead your life the right way, the karma will take care of itself. The dreams will come to you." - Randy Paush, Carnegie Mellon University

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            • #7
              CSACANNONEER
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Dec 2006
              • 44093

              Originally posted by Ricky-Ray
              I've got one.

              What's a featureless AR???? I saw somewhere on a thread that a featureless AR doesn't need a bullet button. Is that true?
              If a centerfire, semi-auto rifle with a detachable magazine is not a listed gun (if they are listed and registered, that's another story) and does not have any of what California has decided are "evil features", it does not need a fixed mag and you can use any legally owned mag that you have.

              When it comes to ARs, you can easily assemble on without a pistol grip, flash hider, folding stock, etc. If you do this, no BB is needed and you can use your legally owned 11, 20, 30, 90, or whatever round mags you want to.
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              • #8
                eastbayjordan
                Junior Member
                • Jul 2010
                • 36

                What's c&r

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                • #9
                  ojisan
                  Agent 86
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 11762

                  Curio and Relic
                  Old guns (at least 50 years old but sometimes must be older).
                  These are exempt from some sales laws.
                  These are guns where they are more likely to be collected and occasionally shot than used in a revolution.
                  You can get a special C&R firearms license and cash and carry C&R guns.
                  Some C&R guns (mostly rifles) can be cash and carried by anyone (no felons etc).

                  Originally posted by Citadelgrad87
                  I don't really care, I just like to argue.

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                  • #10
                    eastbayjordan
                    Junior Member
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 36

                    Thank you

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                    • #11
                      Regulus
                      Senior Member
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Aug 2008
                      • 1156

                      Originally posted by Ricky-Ray
                      What's a featureless AR???? I saw somewhere on a thread that a featureless AR doesn't need a bullet button. Is that true?
                      CSACANNONEER covered it.

                      FYI, here is a link to the Featureless Rifle Picture Thread with lots of pictures of various configurations.

                      My personal favorite

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                      • #12
                        fallujahfighter
                        Junior Member
                        • Jul 2010
                        • 9

                        This is flipin awsome!!! Thanks for the answers, all of you . I was stationed in California for several years at Camp Pendleton, but I never had any of my personally owned weapons with me, almost all of which were illegal in California anyway. I always left them with my dad in Florida or my brother in Alabama. I figured since California made it so difficult to buy/carry/own/shoot one, I never bothered or had any interest in same while I was there. Besides, I had to be a Cali state resident in order to do so, and there is no way in hell that was going to happen.

                        I mean no offence, but I could not live in a state that restricts my 2nd Amendment rights as much as California does, (or so it seems from a Texan's point of view), as do many other states/cities besides Cali. Hehe, I knew that when I was to retire, it was going to be in the south, just not directly south of Oregon .
                        Last edited by fallujahfighter; 07-28-2010, 9:53 PM.
                        The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.
                        Thomas Jefferson...

                        The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.
                        Thomas Jefferson...

                        One smart Founding Father. How the hell did he know?

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                        • #13
                          swerv512
                          Veteran Member
                          • Mar 2006
                          • 3076

                          come on, i wanted to answer a stoopid question!
                          let me see if i can make one up...

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                          • #14
                            CSACANNONEER
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 44093

                            Originally posted by swerv512
                            come on, i wanted to answer a stoopid question!
                            let me see if i can make one up...
                            If my Glock22 mag holds more than 10 rounds of .22lr, is it illegal?
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                            • #15
                              Wicked Pete
                              Calguns Addict
                              • May 2010
                              • 5182

                              Here is a stupid question: which end of the gun do the bullets come out?

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