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  • #31
    CSACANNONEER
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    • Dec 2006
    • 44093

    Originally posted by icentropy
    after almost 60 votes it's still hovering around 70%. is that good for a create a new group thread? anyone? bueller? bueller? anyone?
    You know, if you really want a separate form, you could start your own website? This one is privately owned and it's up to the owners to decide how they want to run their website. Of course, I'm sure that they are open to constructive suggestions but, don't get upset if they don't do what you want. Remember that we all all guests here. Also, is 60 votes really a large enough sample to indicate what the over 50,000 Calguns members want?

    BTW, I have not voted either way. I really don't care one way or another since, I just use the "new posts" button and don't pay attention to individual forums and sub forums anyway.
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    • #32
      icentropy
      Member
      • Jul 2009
      • 443

      Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
      You know, if you really want a separate form, you could start your own website? This one is privately owned and it's up to the owners to decide how they want to run their website. Of course, I'm sure that they are open to constructive suggestions but, don't get upset if they don't do what you want. Remember that we all all guests here. Also, is 60 votes really a large enough sample to indicate what the over 50,000 Calguns members want?
      No, it's really not a big deal and in no way would i be upset if the powers that be decided not to make a seperate group. As you said it's their forum and I am happy to be allowed on here and that we have people willing to run and moderate these forums so we can talk and help each other out. It's just a thought that I had after reading a lot of posts and figured I'd see how other people felt about it. What i was wondering is if it's even possible. I mean if new groups are not made then there's no point for this thread at all. If they are occasionally, i thought it'd be cool to have a SHTF group. Either way Calguns rules! I thought it'd be more of a percentage thing. If 70% of the people that vote, voted yes it seems to me that the majority of the people that have an opionion on it would like it. But I don't see a few guys asking for a new group as trying to "strong arm" the founders to make a change, just food for thought. If someone said "no, this group won't be made." then I'd just happily leave the thread alone. No biggie either way.
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      • #33
        CSACANNONEER
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        • Dec 2006
        • 44093

        Cool!
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        • #34
          Joser23
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          • Jul 2010
          • 115

          i vote yes, i need some more info for when the zombies come!!

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          • #35
            Californio
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            • Dec 2006
            • 4169

            No, why because the main thrust of CalGuns is to promote the repeal of California Gun Laws that infringe on our Rights. Public perception of Survivalists is a paranoia driven group.

            As a pre-Statehood Californian whose family has survived numerous Earthquakes I support all actives that promote common sense Natural Disaster Preparedness but end of the world video game fantasies really don't paint gun owners in a mature light. Plenty of Forum Boards for people who want to play that game.

            Camping, wilderness survival, natural disaster preparation - Yes.

            End of the World - NO.
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            • #36
              icentropy
              Member
              • Jul 2009
              • 443

              Originally posted by Californio
              No, why because the main thrust of CalGuns is to promote the repeal of California Gun Laws that infringe on our Rights. Public perception of Survivalists is a paranoia driven group.

              Camping, wilderness survival, natural disaster preparation - Yes.
              End of the World - NO.
              I can understand that, however i think the lines between SHTF and natural disaster preparation are very blurry. Also in a major natural disaster, a lot of infrastructure would be gone and even for a little while it could get SHTFish. Heck the LA riots a while back seemed like attack of the killer zombies to me.
              "Seems sick and it's hungry, it's tired and it's torn, It looks like it's dyin' and it's hardly been born" Bob Dylan
              "It's the end of the world as we know it...and I feel fine." R.E.M.

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              • #37
                Californio
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                • Dec 2006
                • 4169

                Originally posted by icentropy
                I can understand that, however i think the lines between SHTF and natural disaster preparation are very blurry. Also in a major natural disaster, a lot of infrastructure would be gone and even for a little while it could get SHTFish. Heck the LA riots a while back seemed like attack of the killer zombies to me.
                Here is a forum for you,



                Some of the members are members of CalGuns.
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                • #38
                  evidens83
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 7839

                  Isn't that what the Outdoor/Survival subforum is for??
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                  • #39
                    Nachoman
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 1138

                    Originally posted by icentropy
                    I can understand that, however i think the lines between SHTF and natural disaster preparation are very blurry. Also in a major natural disaster, a lot of infrastructure would be gone and even for a little while it could get SHTFish. Heck the LA riots a while back seemed like attack of the killer zombies to me.
                    Also there's a lot of different ideas of what SHTF entails. Some folks think it's the end of civilized society as we know it. Some think it's a week of civil unrest. It's a pretty big difference planning for one or the other. Personally, I think anytime someone asks a SHTF question, they should preface it with what type of situation they are imagining.

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                    • #40
                      DaveFJ80
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 2066

                      It would be nice to have a forum dedicated to this type of situation, but there would also be a lot of redundancy on that forum and others with similar threads and topics brought up. Unless you did a global search to find the info that you want, you could be creating a similar topic in another forum when one was just recently created elsewhere (which I often see on CGN).

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                      • #41
                        chaseface
                        Member
                        • May 2010
                        • 467

                        Originally posted by Californio
                        No, why because the main thrust of CalGuns is to promote the repeal of California Gun Laws that infringe on our Rights. Public perception of Survivalists is a paranoia driven group.

                        As a pre-Statehood Californian whose family has survived numerous Earthquakes I support all actives that promote common sense Natural Disaster Preparedness but end of the world video game fantasies really don't paint gun owners in a mature light. Plenty of Forum Boards for people who want to play that game.

                        Camping, wilderness survival, natural disaster preparation - Yes.

                        End of the World - NO.
                        I think SHTF preparedness is exactly the same thing as a natural disaster preparedness. Think Katrina, think a huge earthquake that knocks out the power grid for months, or a massive gasoline shortage. Sure you wouldn't run around killing people but you would need the tools to protect yourself

                        Or instead of zombies think riots, or China or Russia invading. The term zombies can easily be switched with invaders. I think some of these things are less likely to happen than others but in our lifetime any one of these things taking place could happen. Preparing for one is preparing for all. SHTF to me means bad things going down, it doesn't necessarily mean the end of the world. Im all for the new section.

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                        • #42
                          icentropy
                          Member
                          • Jul 2009
                          • 443

                          Originally posted by chaseface
                          I think SHTF preparedness is exactly the same thing as a natural disaster preparedness. Think Katrina, think a huge earthquake that knocks out the power grid for months, or a massive gasoline shortage. Sure you wouldn't run around killing people but you would need the tools to protect yourself

                          Or instead of zombies think riots, or China or Russia invading. The term zombies can easily be switched with invaders. I think some of these things are less likely to happen than others but in our lifetime any one of these things taking place could happen. Preparing for one is preparing for all. SHTF to me means bad things going down, it doesn't necessarily mean the end of the world. Im all for the new section.
                          +1 what he said
                          "Seems sick and it's hungry, it's tired and it's torn, It looks like it's dyin' and it's hardly been born" Bob Dylan
                          "It's the end of the world as we know it...and I feel fine." R.E.M.

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                          • #43
                            sholling
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 10360

                            You Are Not Allowed To Think Such Thoughts

                            I think it's a good idea but I doubt that it will happen for 2 reasons:
                            1. Political correctness enforcers tend to feel that "tinfoil hat" posts reflect badly on gun owners. I disagree simply because riots happen, and the state and federal government are bankrupt and terrorists are known to be working on WMDs. The combination could leave people on their own for a few weeks to several months.
                            2. The same post-nazis that thread-crap all over every SHTF thread that they come across would make thread crapping the SHTF forum a full time hobby. These members cannot and will not let people discuss any subject that they personally disapprove of. Thus the term post-nazis.
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                            • #44
                              sholling
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 10360

                              Originally posted by chaseface
                              I think SHTF preparedness is exactly the same thing as a natural disaster preparedness. Think Katrina, think a huge earthquake that knocks out the power grid for months, or a massive gasoline shortage. Sure you wouldn't run around killing people but you would need the tools to protect yourself
                              Those are politically incorrect thoughts.

                              Or instead of zombies think riots, or China or Russia invading. The term zombies can easily be switched with invaders. I think some of these things are less likely to happen than others but in our lifetime any one of these things taking place could happen. Preparing for one is preparing for all. SHTF to me means bad things going down, it doesn't necessarily mean the end of the world. Im all for the new section.
                              Actually people on boards used to discuss civil unrest (riots), social collapse due to natural or man made disaster, and armed evil blue helmets appearing on our streets. But those discussions were deemed "blood thirsty racist paranoid survivalist fantasies" by the political correctness enforcers of the gun world and banned by lots of boards. So the term "zombie" was adopted as a PC substitute for "armed bad guys in blue helmets rioting in the streets".
                              Last edited by sholling; 07-30-2010, 12:06 PM.
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                              • #45
                                Barabas
                                Veteran Member
                                • Oct 2009
                                • 3370

                                Ok, bear with me for a second. What do we all want to do during a SHTF or EOTWAWKI scenario?

                                Survive, right?

                                There's a forum for this already. Seriously, there is.

                                The Outdoors, Camping and SURVIVAL forum.

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