Point shooting

[Shady]

my uncle teaches point shooting in nevada

a few months ago I went out there and took one of his classes

I learned a HUGE amount about myself and how I would react
in a fight within 10 yards


I have ALOt more fun
shooting handguns at the range now too


but I know ALOT of people hate on point shooting

what are your thoughts?

[Stockton]

That type of shooting has it's place and time. Good stuff for sure. The downside is collateral damage if ever any that could result. Center mass point and pull is definitely a great cqb technique. Very fast when executed properly.

[freonr22]

like this?

As far as handguns go that is. I really don't see the point of trying to line up the sights on a pistol. In fact I would almost prefer them shaved off.

Think about it.

"BE the bullet"

If a gun is supposed to be an extension of you, get in the zone.

Generally it is short distance, and relying on lining up the sights takes away from natural focus in a heated situation.

Is there anyone else here that subscribes to this train of thought?


Anyways, thats my thought of the day.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=279167

[cvc04]

It depends on range

short range= point shooting. As you said less than ten yards. If the BG is coming at you with a knife point shooting is gonna get it done.

[mif_slim]

Its all about shooting from the hip. You seen "Rambo", "Commando", "Hot shot part deux"




you see, all hip shot.

well... this is point shooting actually. lol

[BigDogatPlay]

When I was first breaking into law enforcement in the late 70's we were all taught the point shoulder, instinctive, method for close in encounters. I still have a copy of Bill Jordan's seminal book, 'No Second Place Winner' on my shelf which is largely based in the method.

It does work, it can be very accurate and is very, very fast. That said, it takes a lot of practice to be come truly proficient and stay that way. I still practice it once in a while when I shoot my revolvers and it comes very naturally.

Filing the sights off, as noted in the other thread came, IIRC, from Col. Rex Applegate's writings. I think it takes away from the overall utility of the defensive handgun to be able to deliver accurate aimed fire out to 50 or even 100 yards.

[sammy]

I have not practiced it much but find I do it naturally at closer distances. The first time I noticed it was at a USPSA match where the targets were at about 5 yards or so. I completed the string and found I had not used the sights at all. I can see how in a HD shooting point shooting would be very useful.

[j1133s]

my uncle teaches point shooting in nevada

a few months ago I went out there and took one of his classes

I learned a HUGE amount about myself and how I would react
in a fight within 10 yards


I have ALOt more fun
shooting handguns at the range now too


but I know ALOT of people hate on point shooting

what are your thoughts?

I point shoot (not using the sights) on target < 3 yds. Or at least I used to be able to.

After not much shooting for 3yrs, at a recent action pistol match I point shot a target _1_ yard away and completely missed it....

So I think point shooting only works when you do it often/practice often.

[odysseus]

Neither of your options. One would not be served avoiding it, but making it your priority sounds a little strange. It also is a lot of fun, not just about tactical holster shooting or something. Point shooting is a skill you should know and practice as an all around firearms shooter, but it isn't the largest priority. Most people might be served just from trigger control drills. You know what I mean?

[Shady]

Its all about shooting from the hip. You seen "Rambo", "Commando", "Hot shot part deux"




you see, all hip shot.

well... this is point shooting actually. lol

hahahah

[usctrojan]

I always come up for my sights on all my guns. I practice repeatedly and frankly I don't think adding a sight picture in costs me but tenths of a second and guarantees my shot. I have done tons of drills from a holster; timed; against other shooters, etc.

I am fully liable for every bullet I shoot and I want to know where its going and the only way I can do that is to use my sights. Plus if I use my sights I am likely to only need to fire less shots because all my bullets will be where I want them (in the other guy).

Side note:
I might skip the sights if I had literally in the guys belly; but I'd rather not be that close.

Disclaimer... I am just an armchair athlete in the gun-fighting world and I hope to stay that way. I have trained with people who have been in multiple law enforcement (not civilian or military) gunfights and killed their opponent. While I do not envy them I don't see much point in not trusting the training they have given me.

[HCz]

Neither of your options. One would not be served avoiding it, but making it your priority sounds a little strange. It also is a lot of fun, not just about tactical holster shooting or something. Point shooting is a skill you should know and practice as an all around firearms shooter, but it isn't the largest priority. Most people might be served just from trigger control drills. You know what I mean?

This nails it.

[Deadbolt]

Its all about shooting from the hip. You seen "Rambo", "Commando", "Hot shot part deux"




you see, all hip shot.

well... this is point shooting actually. lol

this is why i wear a patch over one eye - not because i need to, but because i look kickass

[Uriah02]

I would like to learn...

[The Director]

I just qualified with point shooting for the PC832 firearms course. It's part of the curriculum now. You must put 12 rounds inside the 7 ring at 7 yards. Shoot 6, reload, then shoot another 6 within a 30 second time period.

I had never done this before - always looked at my sights. It seems hard at first....you want to bring that gun up just a bit higher so you can catch those sights.

After a few dozen rounds though, you get the uncanny ability to point the gun and just "know" where it's going to shoot....I found I could get all my shots within the 9 ring easily with this method, and that was from holster draw.

I'm going to practice this way more now. It definitely has it's place. I scored perfectly on that segment of the test. I'm sure anyone could with some basic instruction.