9mm vs 45 Accuracy

[Donny1]

You are confusing rounds with completely different guns btw. It's not 9mm vs. 45. It's comparing a $2k worked over 1911 with a stock 92 (a combat pistol) that has had no rework if I read your thread properly.

No, they both have been "worked".

[Call_me_Tom]

I find this very interesting. Has your personal Beretta been altered or modified in any way compared to your issue gun? Or are they more or less both stock? See - I felt for a while that the Beretta I got (used) must be a lemon because I had always heard great things about their intrinsic accuracy. My CZ-75 has always been a wonderfully accurate pistol, but maybe that's due to it's superior (for me) ergonomics. Hmm.

Good question. When I first purchased my 92 the trigger was very stiff & I could shoot my issued M9 better. I believe that NIB 92/M9's have stiffer springs & over time as the pistols break in the springs/trigger lighten up. So I did a little google'n & found that if I replaced the hammer spring for a lighter spring (D-spring or Wolff 16#) it would help with the trigger pull. I also went one step further & installed a Wolff RP trigger conversion unit (aka INS spring) & it turned the pistol into a weapon.

Also, ammo has a lot to factor into it. If I buy cheap 115gr I can shoot nice tight groups out to 15yds. After that the shots are all over the place. I found out that the 92 is rifled for the 124gr NATO round so when I shoot past 15yds I use 124gr ammo. So far I can double action 20rds into a 4" group at 25yds. In single action I can do better but I like to concentrate on my weak areas.

[orangeusa]

I hope ammo will help me past 14 yards!! I'll have to try the INS spring, but believe it NEEDs a steel trigger. Kinda hard to find these days.. Brignoli has them tho.. for $$$ . Wonder if that explains why RWS works so well..

[jlmurphy]

I have SA 1911's in both .45 and 9mm, both have match barrels and high end internals, and I do have a machine rest that I use to work up accurate loads. That being said, I found it much easier to find accurate loads for the .45. I do believe certain cartridges are more inherently accurate than others. Although the recoil from the 9mm is so mild, it makes the pistol a joy to shoot, and in some ways, practically more accurate.

[eaglemike]

I've built some very accurate 9mm pistols. If you want one that is very easy to shoot well, and feels great, get a CZ or one of the Tanfoglio clones with a match barrel. Very few guns are as pleasant to shoot. There is not much that will out shoot a really good 1911. Proper grips to fit your hand and a good triger and sitghts make a huge difference. Either gun can be a 1.5" gun at 25 meters if everything is right. I've never seen a 92 do that, although I guess it's possible. I know that an X5 in 9mm can be a sub-2" gun at 25 meters, too.

I've used a red dot as a training aid in the past. It can really help with follow through and trigger control. Focus on the dot, make sure it holds still all the time....... People usually think the dot is shaking by itself - ha! It's much harder to see the shake when one is trying to line up sights.

Not matter which gun, focus on the front sight,* and keep it still/follow through, even while the gun is starting to recoil and cycle. It's amazing what a difference this can make. *assuming iron sights, if using a RDS, stay on the dot.

all the best,
Mike

[xXBigJoeXx]

I love my Beretta 92FS INOX! Great gun, built to last with lots of history. Mine shot some very nice tight and consistant groups out of the box. I am currently waiting on my new solid steel guid rod to replace the plastic one that ships from the factory. Other then that I have no complaints

[The Director]

Gun porn time!

Love my M9A1

[Call_me_Tom]

Just recieved my 92 back from the gunsmith & there is no difference in trigger pull, it just feels smoother. The gunsmith warned me of this as I had already changed out the springs which made the biggest difference in pull weight. Bang for buck, spend the $25 & swap out the hammer & trigger springs.

[Call_me_Tom]

^^^oh, & I was referencing a trigger job I had the gunsmith perform.