MANDATORY training?

[winnre]

It's be interesting to see how many negative issues various states have with concealed carriers in relation to the training required, if any.

[Milsurp Collector]

Same topic was debated 4 months ago http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=282163

[Cokebottle]

It's be interesting to see how many negative issues various states have with concealed carriers in relation to the training required, if any.

Florida requires a minimum of training (basic NRA handgun safety course satisfies their requirement for CCW).
When they went to shall-issue CCW, crime dropped significantly.
It's been the same story in every other state that went to shall-issue, and very few have more strict training requirements.

[audihenry]

You need to learn from someone. Grandparents don't take an 8 year old out back with a .22 any more.

Here is an analogy: I have this stove that my ex used to cook fantastic meals on, but I can't get any where near her cooking ability. Same stove. yea, I need training.

If you have a firearm you should SEEK training, don't just ad lib it like me with a stove. Dangerous combo.

The only problem is it will never be comprehensive. Before you get a driver's license, you must complete education and demonstrate via a test that you can indeed drive. Judging by the number of people I encounter on the roads, this test does little to weed out the dangerous people from the sane.

Frankly, judging by what I've seen on some ranges, it's safe to say a good chunk of current gunowners would not make the cut.

[socalblue]

Fact is we are no longer a society where the majority grow up with firearms as part of the basic culture. Go to the local public range & watch for a bit. Would you want some of those folks carrying a firearm in public, at least without training / testing?

A reasonable training / testing requirement is going to be required if we are ever to gain the goal of national CCW reciprocity. Cross-state politics is going to require this (Just look to the recent changes made by NV, NM & others). Make it simple for the AG's to sign off on reciprocity agreements. IMO it is highly doubtful that the courts would find a problem with such as part of the states police powers.

[amd64]

Fact is we are no longer a society where the majority grow up with firearms as part of the basic culture. Go to the local public range & watch for a bit. Would you want some of those folks carrying a firearm in public, at least without training / testing?

+1. And at a range, at least there's a RO to control bad gun handling. I wouldn't want to be around someone who doesn't even practice the 4 basic safety rules when they pull out a gun in public to defend themselves. Although other states have no training requirements and seem to do ok, I wouldn't expect the same from CA. More stupid people = more laws to (try) prevent stupid.

[Tacom]

I don't think there should be mandatory training. By that same token though, when something does happen out of willful ignorance, it should be dealt with harshly.

[-hanko]

The only problem is it will never be comprehensive. Before you get a driver's license, you must complete education and demonstrate via a test that you can indeed drive. Judging by the number of people I encounter on the roads, this test does little to weed out the dangerous people from the sane.

Frankly, judging by what I've seen on some ranges, it's safe to say a good chunk of current gunowners would not make the cut.

I'd agree with paragraph 2, spend some time at the Spenceville F&G range on a nice weekend afternoon.

Paragraph 1 would work only if RKBA were not a right granted to us by our Creator.

I'm still waiting for someone to document nd's and accidental deaths are higher among states with no training required for ccw/chl/cpl/etc. v. those which require training. Philosophically, I'm in favor of training, but not government mandated training.

-hanko

[Rob454]

its amazing that more people don't get shot by accident considering what i see at local gun ranges consists of probably the most unsafe gun handling. IMO for every 3 safe gun handlers there is 1 unsafe one. they arejsut lucky and nobody gets shot.

IMO yes there should be some sort of hands on safety course if you want a CCW. granted CCWs are not given out like candy either so there is a huge safety valve right there. hell i think there should be a boat license also just like taking a drivers test. Not for any other reason that maybe you will have a few less idiots out on the water.

[harbinger007]

I am probably mostly concerned with the meddling and requiring specific forms of training. I resented having to mark the correct answer in the Handgun Safety Certificate exam indicating that a handgun should be locked unloaded and separate from the ammunition. That's not the kind of safety advice I want to be taught.

[dwa]

the coursework should be about what liabilities one would incur and what scenarios are appropriate