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  • Gary O
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2005
    • 933

    Ethical Question

    A member has just recently contacted me wanting to buy a handgun I have listed for sale. What he was proposing was for us to meet face-to-face and I would sell him the handgun outright; no FFL dealer, no waiting period. In his words, useing an FFL dealer was "too expensive". My question is: should I post this members name so others might be warned? Thanks...
    Gary

    Never underestimate the likelihood that the Republicans will cave...
  • #2
    C.G.
    Calguns Addict
    • Oct 2005
    • 8245

    Originally posted by Gary O
    A member has just recently contacted me wanting to buy a handgun I have listed for sale. What he was proposing was for us to meet face-to-face and I would sell him the handgun outright; no FFL dealer, no waiting period. In his words, useing an FFL dealer was "too expensive". My question is: should I post this members name so others might be warned? Thanks...
    Sounded like an ATF troll; it wouldn't hurt to know.
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    • #3
      Ratters
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2005
      • 694

      I wouldn't think so. Just tell him no and let it be. Personally I feel that we should go back to the good old days where that was legal to do anyhow.

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      • #4
        -hanko
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
        CGN Contributor
        • Jul 2002
        • 14174

        +1 for Ratters...we'll be warned if/when he wants to buy something else. I couldn't argue that using most prk ffl's for a transfer is not extremely expensive for the time involved.

        -hanko
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        • #5
          stevie
          Veteran Member
          • Oct 2005
          • 3856

          I agree with just tell the person "no", now that you posted this, most will have future reference in case it comes up again. name not needed.

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          • #6
            capitol
            Veteran Member
            • Oct 2005
            • 2503

            Post The Name! Heck, paste the PM here too.

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            • #7
              Tyler
              Member
              • Oct 2005
              • 368

              The person he is talking about is me. I did not say that we would not need an FFL. I said that I did not want it shipped to an FFL in my area, because it would cost me much more then if we did the transfer in person. I was under the impression that there were no waiting periods for a PPT, but I must be wrong on that account. He lives in Sacramento, so it makes no since to me why he should only want to ship the gun to an FFL, when he is only about an hour drive from where I live.

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              • #8
                Ericthenorse
                Member
                • Oct 2005
                • 283

                All PPT must go through an FFL... And you must wait 10 days... If he has to ship it, it must be shipped to a FFL. He can not send it to your house... If you meet him in Sac. then you must leave it at the shop and go back in 10 days..
                Last edited by Ericthenorse; 11-08-2005, 10:22 AM.
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                • #9
                  Tyler
                  Member
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 368

                  Yes I know that a PPT must go through an FFL. Nowhere do I mention that a PPT is done without an FFL. That was simply a misunderstanding on the part of Gary O, but that is not really the issue here. The issue is that he wanted to ship the gun to an FFL when a PPT is better in many ways. For one, it is much cheaper, and two, I can hold the gun and inspect its quality. I don’t know how many of you would be will to buy a gun only from looking at a digital picture, but I am not that trusting.

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                  • #10
                    EOD Guy
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 1229

                    Originally posted by C.G.
                    Sounded like an ATF troll; it wouldn't hurt to know.
                    ATF wouldn't care. It's not a violation of Federal law.

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                    • #11
                      rkt88edmo
                      Reptile&Samurai Moderator
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Dec 2002
                      • 10062

                      More CA misunderstandings...

                      I'd pay the extra money to not have to drive to Sac twice if I really wanted the gun but it doesn't sound like you want to drive or pay more, which is understandable as well.
                      If it was a snake, it would have bit me.
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                      • #12
                        PanzerAce
                        Veteran Member
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 4262

                        Personally, I would always shoot a gun before I buy it used. But all I can say is that atleast you were honest enough to admit that you were the one who this was about.
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                        • #13
                          Gary O
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2005
                          • 933

                          I stand corrected..

                          Props to Tyler for being a stand-up guy. I was wrong and am sorry. Tyler, I am sorry about this misunderstanding. I have never been involved in a deal such as you were wanting. I guess I jumped to the wrong conclusion....
                          God bless <><
                          Gary

                          Never underestimate the likelihood that the Republicans will cave...

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                          • #14
                            50 Freak
                            Veteran Member
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 3412

                            I'm in agreement. If I were to buy a gun from a PPT, an hour drive to inspect the gun is cheaper than paying HK prices for a Lorcin gun.

                            Also, are FTF (no papers sales) legal for handguns over 50 years old? Or is that only applicable to rifles?
                            I'm Rick James...Be-otch!!!!

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                            • #15
                              Tyler
                              Member
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 368

                              Hey no problem Gary O, it was a simple misunderstanding.

                              Originally posted by 50 Freak
                              Also, are FTF (no papers sales) legal for handguns over 50 years old? Or is that only applicable to rifles?
                              I too would like to know about that.

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