Unconfigured Ad Widget

Collapse

RESTRAINING ORDER QUESTION IMOPRTANT NEED QUICK ANSWER

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Rob454
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Feb 2006
    • 11254

    RESTRAINING ORDER QUESTION IMOPRTANT NEED QUICK ANSWER

    A buddy of mine just called and had a restraining order against him from his wife. he needs to get rid of the guns. can he sell them to me? . he just needs to sell them correct? he thinks he needs to sell them to a FFL or surrender them to the PD and I told him i was not 100% sure but i thought they just have to be sold but I wanna make sure im right

    Thanx
  • #2
    johnrunner89
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 953

    The paperwork he was served with will have the directions on what to do with his firearms. But I'm pretty sure he has to sell them to a dealer or turn them into his local P.D with in 24 hours of being served.

    Comment

    • #3
      PatriotnMore
      Calguns Addict
      • Nov 2007
      • 7068

      This subject seems to come up quite often.

      Perhaps one of the lawyers who has dealt/deals with TRO and firearms, can put down into words the nuts and bolts of options and best course of action, what type of legal counsel they should seek. Then this can be made a sticky to point others to when it comes up.
      ‎"If Congress can do whatever in their discretion can be done by money, and will promote the General Welfare, the Government is no longer a limited one, possessing enumerated powers, but an indefinite one, subject to particular exceptions."
      --James Madison
      'Letter to Edmund Pendleton', 1792

      Comment

      • #4
        eaglemike
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Jan 2008
        • 3854

        Call Jason Davis RIGHT NOW
        There are some people that it's just not worth engaging.

        It's a muzzle BRAKE, not a muzzle break. Or is your muzzle tired?

        Comment

        • #5
          Rob454
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Feb 2006
          • 11254

          got a phone # I can forward?

          Comment

          • #6
            psssniper
            CGN Contributor
            • Oct 2005
            • 3060

            "I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness; I love only that which they defend.
            victus exaro somniculosus, somnus exaro ieiunium

            Comment

            • #7
              RandyD
              Calguns Addict
              • Jan 2009
              • 6673

              I am an attorney and write about restraining orders on this site whenever the subject is brought up.

              I am assuming the restraining order is a DVTRO since the RO is to protect his wife. Look on page 2 of Form DV-110, item 10 states: the restrained person cannot own, possess, have, buy or try to buy, receive or try to receive, or in any other way get guns, firearms, or ammunition. Item 11 states: The restrained person must sell to a licensed gun dealer or turn in to police any guns or firearms that he or she has or controls. This must be done within 24 hours of being served with this order. The restrained person must bring a receipt to the court within 48 hours of being served this order, to prove that guns and firearms have been turned in or sold.

              As a personal opinion, I believe that if he sold you the firearms through a licensed gun dealer, that would satisfy the order. This accomplishes the purpose of the RO but it is arguable that this is not what the order states. I also do not see how your friend can bring proof to the court within 48 hours of being served the RO because the courts are not open until Tuesday.
              sigpic

              Comment

              • #8
                Rob454
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Feb 2006
                • 11254

                Originally posted by RandyD
                I am an attorney and write about restraining orders on this site whenever the subject is brought up.

                I am assuming the restraining order is a DVTRO since the RO is to protect his wife. Look on page 2 of Form DV-110, item 10 states: the restrained person cannot own, possess, have, buy or try to buy, receive or try to receive, or in any other way get guns, firearms, or ammunition. Item 11 states: The restrained person must sell to a licensed gun dealer or turn in to police any guns or firearms that he or she has or controls. This must be done within 24 hours of being served with this order. The restrained person must bring a receipt to the court within 48 hours of being served this order, to prove that guns and firearms have been turned in or sold.

                As a personal opinion, I believe that if he sold you the firearms through a licensed gun dealer, that would satisfy the order. This accomplishes the purpose of the RO but it is arguable that this is not what the order states. I also do not see how your friend can bring proof to the court within 48 hours of being served the RO because the courts are not open until Tuesday.
                He got served last night at 6 PM. Im trying to call him now. Ade's is where he sold his gun to.
                Last edited by Rob454; 07-03-2010, 2:04 PM.

                Comment

                • #9
                  anthonyca
                  Calguns Addict
                  • May 2008
                  • 6316

                  https://www.facebook.com/pages/Union...70812799700206

                  Originally posted by Wherryj
                  I am a physician. I am held to being "the expert" in medicine. I can't fall back on feigned ignorance and the statement that the patient should have known better than I. When an officer "can't be expected to know the entire penal code", but a citizen is held to "ignorance is no excuse", this is equivalent to ME being able to sue my patient for my own malpractice-after all, the patient should have known better, right?

                  Comment

                  • #10
                    RandyD
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 6673

                    anthonyca,

                    You are correct, DVTROs are a tool in divorce cases. If the temporary RO becomes a permanent RO and there are children involved, the restrained person can expect to have supervised visitation and that results in the restrained person paying even more child support. Family Code Section 4320(2)(i) requires the judge to consider domestic violence as a factor in awarding spousal support, which translates into the restrained person paying more spousal support.

                    I was in court on Wednesday listening to a man defend himself against his former girlfriend's accusations. He persuaded me that he was a good guy but his evidence was not introduced properly, and the judge issued a permanent RO against him. Afterwards, I spoke with three other attorneys who listened to the case and they all agreed with me. I don't know how many times I have to say it but if you have been served a restraining order, get an attorney.
                    Last edited by RandyD; 07-03-2010, 2:37 PM.
                    sigpic

                    Comment

                    • #11
                      Interloper
                      Veteran Member
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 2680

                      So...restraining orders expire, right? There's no provision for surrendering your guns and possibly getting them back some day?

                      Comment

                      • #12
                        Kodemonkey
                        • Jun 2010
                        • 2904

                        Dumb question: but when they say you can turn it into a police station, does that mean they hold it for you or are you surrendering them for destruction?

                        Comment

                        • #13
                          Cokebottle
                          Seņor Member
                          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 32373

                          Originally posted by Interloper
                          So...restraining orders expire, right? There's no provision for surrendering your guns and possibly getting them back some day?
                          A TRO is temporary, and can be issued without due process by a judge, but it can be made a permanent RO after a hearing.
                          - Rich

                          Originally posted by dantodd
                          A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

                          Comment

                          • #14
                            Rob454
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                            • Feb 2006
                            • 11254

                            If anyone wants a nice beretta Ade's just got one today. I guess he got a fair price for it. Total BS IMO. He's a decent guy and totally crushed by this

                            Comment

                            • #15
                              Cokebottle
                              Seņor Member
                              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 32373

                              Originally posted by Rob454
                              If anyone wants a nice beretta Ade's just got one today. I guess he got a fair price for it. Total BS IMO. He's a decent guy and totally crushed by this
                              You could always buy it and hold it for him.... PPT it back to him when he's again legally able to have it.
                              - Rich

                              Originally posted by dantodd
                              A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

                              Comment

                              Working...
                              UA-8071174-1