Canada's Gun History

[squishyhead]

Can anyone provide me with a good synopsis of Canada's decline into a gun hating nation? I used to know a lot of Canadians who loved hunting and sport shooting, but lately all I've encountered are gun-hating Canucks who believe their gun-bans to be one of the things that make Canada "superior" to the US!

[vantec08]

http://www.davekopel.com/2a/Mags/The-Failure-of-Canadian-Gun-Control.htm

This doesnt get much into the socialogical background of the 1977 Canada Gun Act but gives a good accounting of what it was and what it produced.


http://old.nationalreview.com/kopel/kopel121202.asp ---- this is from Mauser and Kopel, another good source. Notice the referrence to "massive disobedience."

[stan]

my dad's wife is from canada (and they split time between canada and the US on a monthly-ish basis).

her position was just that it wasn't necessary because police response time is ~2 minutes. she said in the rural areas where animals and things necessitate guns, people are allowed - for example her daughter's friend is going to a study program in a rural area and they are all required to get shotguns because of bears.

i don't agree with any of it but i can see how they would be more or less OK with it because of the fact that it is part of their culture.

[ojisan]

http://canadiangunnutz.com/

Overall some nice folks who are making progress against their anti-gun laws.
You have to register to view.

[mjsweims]

You are probably speaking to the wrong people if you think Canada is "a gun-hating nation". Is Washington DC a gun-hating city? Yes there are certain people who hate guns, many others who really don't care one way or the other and those who are in favor of gun ownership. Unfortunately a few of those in favor of unrestricted gun ownership are criminals, and this is what fuels the anti-gun position.
I was born and raised in Canada, but was transferred to the US before the gun laws were adopted. When I was going to university I remember walking across campus with my rifle to go plinking in the woods across the highway. During duck season there were always students and faculty moving firearms in and out of their residences on and around campus. I've been back since to hunt with family and things have definitely changed. I used to have to get permission to borrow a gun while I was there hunting - to get this I had to fill out a form and submit a police letter to the Canadian government. Now this no longer seems to be necessary. The last time I went - two years ago - there was no need to get a permit to borrow a gun. In fact in order to get a non-resident hunting licence I didn't even have to show proof of passing a safety course, or another hunting licence.
It is my understanding that many of the laws concerning gun registration and licensing have been modified or abandoned. I still think you have to have a permit to buy a gun, much like California's requirement for handguns.
Maybe you meant Canada has gun-hating politicians, much like most of the elitist politicians we have in the US who are so far above the rest of us common folk that they are the only ones who know what we should be allowed to do or own.

[Canucky]

Canadian gun registration ======== 2 BILLION dollar FAILURE enough said.

[Ford8N]

You are probably speaking to the wrong people if you think Canada is "a gun-hating nation".

I agree. I go back to visit the relations and I saw a lot of "passive resistance" to the so called mandatory registration law.

[Ding126]

.. your meeting the wrong Canadians. The anti gun cancer is far reaching..it wiped out England...only a few survivors left.

[Milsurp Collector]

Can anyone provide me with a good synopsis of Canada's decline into a gun hating nation?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_Canada

[rimfire78]

I know a lot of pro gun Canadians. Last time I was in Vancouver, I visited quite a large gun store, that was packed with customers. They had a large selection of hand guns and rifles including a couple of Ar15's which he explained could be purchased by anyone with a .... some permit or another. (Although they have a 5 round limit on semi auto rifles).
The guy was very helpful and said "Canadians love guns, they're just less likely than Americans to talk about owning them".
Some stats I found:
Canada has more guns and fewer controls on them than most nations in Western Europe (exceptions being Finland, Norway and Switzerland which have comparatively fewer restrictions) or Japan. Gun ownership rate is about 27% of households with great regional variations, rural much higher than urban, west higher than east.

[7x57]

What perhaps matters most is that, so far as I know, there *is no right of self defense in Canada*.

7x57

[rimfire78]

What perhaps matters most is that, so far as I know, there *is no right of self defense in Canada*.

7x57

I believe you're correct. There is no guaranteed right to self defense or gun ownership. The courts are very liberal, and the criminals are usually treated as the victims when it comes to sentencing.

[Fjold]

http://canadiangunnutz.com/

Overall some nice folks who are making progress against their anti-gun laws.
You have to register to view.

About 10 years ago they had a smoking hot BOTD forum there.

[rimfire78]

So here's what I've learned about their laws... Surprisingly;
1a) They can own AR 15's (even short barrelled carbines) and AR pistols - as long as they obtain a "restricted" license. (which means they can ONLY be used at a range)
1b) There are no evil feature provisions
* They have a "list" similar to that of California, where named rifles are subject to "assault weapon" status. (AR's and AK's fall under this catagory BUT.... those newer models, not on the list - such as the XCR are legal to own in their stock configuration (without need for a resticted license).
2) Semi- auto rifles are limited to 5 round magazines, and centerfire pistols are limited to 10 rounds BUT any Semi-auto rifle that can accept a pistol mag may have up to 10 rounds.
3) There is no limit on magazine capacity for .22 caliber/tube fed guns/lever action magazines, or shotgun mags!!!!
I hate to say this, but #3 makes me a little jealous I think

[nick]

So here's what I've learned about their laws... Surprisingly;
1a) They can own AR 15's (even short barrelled carbines) and AR pistols - as long as hey obtain a "restricted" license. (which means they can ONLY be used at a range)
1b) There are no evil feature provisions
* They have a "list" similar to that of California, where named rifles are subject to "assault weapon" status. (AR's and AK's fall under this catagory BUT.... those newer models, not on the list - such as the XCR are legal to own in their stock configuration (without need for a resticted license).
2) Semi- auto rifles are limited to 5 round magazines, and centerfire pistols are limited to 10 rounds BUT any Semi-auto rifle that can accept a pistol mag may have up to 10 rounds.
3) There is no limit on magazine capacity for .22 caliber/tube fed guns/lever action magazines, or shotgun mags!!!!
I hate to say this, but #3 makes me a little jealous I think

Well, I think the notion that a firearm becomes extra evil when its barrel is shortened is unique to us.