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  • #16
    xibunkrlilkidsx
    Calguns Addict
    • Sep 2008
    • 5419

    Originally posted by CaliforniaLiberal
    I'd be highly skeptical of safe manufacturers fire ratings. They have no common standard and can claim whatever they want to.

    Remember that a safe not securely bolted to the floor or walls is just a convenient container for robbers to haul off your guns with.

    Here's some good information.

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    thats true. Amsec has the "Mercury" system and everyone has a different system that is basically the same just different names. UL rated safes are the best bet for fire protection.
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    • #17
      tlillard23
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2006
      • 1446

      it's been said 1000 times in the "safes" section. DON"T BUY ANY SAFE. they are all worthless.

      Please, really, do a search in the accessories and safes section....
      Last edited by tlillard23; 06-15-2010, 9:19 AM.

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      • #18
        cs2836
        Junior Member
        • Jun 2010
        • 5

        Originally posted by xibunkrlilkidsx
        thats true. Amsec has the "Mercury" system and everyone has a different system that is basically the same just different names. UL rated safes are the best bet for fire protection.
        If you get a safe that is UL rated, there is are standards in place. FYI none of the safes you are looking at are burglary rated. They all are rated RSC (residential basic rating). With that said, AMSEC has the best rated insulation in the industry. Also, the dial and bolt work are not the standard U.S. made S&G or LeGuard that you will find on their higher end safes. They are made overseas and dial "backwards".

        For price consideration, you could look at Cannon. They are inexpensive but holdup very well in a fire. They will also replace a fire damaged safe free of charge for life.

        Always bolt a safe to the floor. I have seen a lot safes disappear because the owner did not want to make holes in the floor (I'm a locksmith).

        Just food for thought.

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        • #19
          fishhoppa
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2010
          • 668

          Originally posted by tlillard23
          it's been said 1000 times in the "safes" section. DON"T BUY ANY SAFE. they are all worthless.

          Please, really, do a search in the accessories and safes section....
          hmmm... Aren't safes one of a few available options to safely secure your firearms in a home from kids (toddlers, teens, adult children)? Perhaps they might be 'useless' against theft or fire, but I am positive, if used properly, safes are a good deterrent to keep children from accessing dangerous weapon.
          "Start by holding doors open for people, move up gradually from there."

          "Saying we don't need guns because we have cops is like saying we don't need fire extinguishers because we have firefighters"

          "My lemonade stand was robbed once by two thieves. I shot them both. No more robberies."

          "Went to the Giants game yesterday. For opsec reasons I said I was going next week. Can never be to careful."

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          • #20
            DaveInOroValley
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            CGN Contributor
            • Jan 2010
            • 8967

            I bought a "smaller" safe that works fine for what I need. After doing allot of reearch I did settle on this brand. It's very very well made and comes with great warrantees and theft protection.

            Steelwater Gun Safes offers secure, reliable, and fire-rated safes at unbeatable prices. Enjoy free shipping and exclusive accessories today!
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            • #21
              cgseanp1
              Veteran Member
              • Dec 2008
              • 4651

              Originally posted by tlillard23
              it's been said 1000 times in the "safes" section. DON"T BUY ANY SAFE. they are all worthless.

              Please, really, do a search in the accessories and safes section....
              I highly doubt anyone was asking the exact same question as me about what safe to get out of the ones I listed. Thanks anyways.

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              • #22
                cgseanp1
                Veteran Member
                • Dec 2008
                • 4651

                Originally posted by daveinwoodland
                I bought a "smaller" safe that works fine for what I need. After doing allot of reearch I did settle on this brand. It's very very well made and comes with great warrantees and theft protection.

                http://www.steelwatergunsafes.com/
                thanks for link

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                • #23
                  Charlie50
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 1114

                  Cosco Bighorn 30 gun Safe $900.

                  I just purchased a Bighorn safe US made in Idaho by Rhino. So far so good. It is approx 24 x 39 x 60 and weighs about 900lbs! Bang the buck best deal out there in my opinon.
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                  • #24
                    m1aowner
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 2300

                    Well shoot, I was going to say buy a bigger safe too, but if you move a lot, moving a big safe constantly would be huge PITA. I have the AMSEC 5517 and it's still freakin heavy to move. I'd say get a cheap Stack On safe. Light, easy too move, and can hold a decent amount of stuff.

                    Here are some ideas:




                    Originally posted by cgseanp1
                    I was hoping I wouldnt get a bunch of these responses!! haha darnit. Anyways, I am getting a smaller safe, for now. I move a lot, like every year at least, sometimes every 6 months. I'd prefer for now to have something that isn't giant. I own 3 long guns now, so these safes will last me long enough. I am totally 100000000% fine with having to buy a bigger safe in a few years IF I buy that many guns. But for now.... this is what I'm getting.. Any input?

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                    • #25
                      Rivers
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 1630

                      Going on the premise that any safe can be defeated, here are some things that will improve your chances to minimize your own loss if attacked:

                      1) BOLT the safe to a solid floor, ideally a concrete floor. This is VERY important and worth the effort.
                      2) Do not advertise the location of your safe, or that you have good stuff in your house. If the safe is in a garage, is it visible from the street?
                      3) Layer your security. You have a safe. It's bolted to the floor, making it much more tedious for a thief to deal with. Do you have an alarm, ideally with a connection to LEO but at least with a tamper-proof annoying shrill siren? If you can reduce the amount of time a thief has with your safe, you've decreased your risk of loss.
                      4) Don't leave your combination or access key laying around or poorly hidden in your sock drawer.

                      And get a dehumidifier if you're within an hour's drive of the ocean. Rust happens.
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