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  • develown
    Member
    • May 2010
    • 234

    Shooting Spree in the UK

    Some news from my neck of the woods

    A gunman who went on the rampage in west Cumbria killed 12 people and injured a number of others, police confirm.


    Twelve people have been killed by a gunman who went on the rampage across Cumbria in north-west England.

    Taxi driver Derrick Bird shot dead a colleague in the town of Whitehaven before driving through the countryside apparently targeting people at random.

    Twenty-five others were injured, three critically and five seriously. Police said they had 30 separate crime scenes.

    Mr Bird's body was found in a wooded area in Boot in the Lake District and two weapons have been recovered.

    Five victims were named locally as Darren Rewcastle, Garry Purdham, Kenneth Fishburn, Jane Robinson and Michael Pike.

    Mr Rewcastle was a taxi driver. Mr Purdham was a farmer's son and is believed to have had two young children.

    Mr Fishburn, from Egremont, is understood to have been a retired security worker at the nearby Sellafield nuclear site.

    Flowers were left at the spot where he died, with a card saying "RIP Ken - tragically taken but not forgotten".

    Ms Robinson, 66, was shot dead in Drigg Road in Seascale, just yards from the home she shared with her twin sister, Barrie.

    The mass shooting is the UK's worst since 1996, when Thomas Hamilton killed 16 children and their teacher in an attack at a school in Dunblane, Scotland.

    In 1987 gun fanatic Michael Ryan killed 16 people in Hungerford, Berkshire.

    The Queen said she was "deeply shocked" by the Cumbria shootings and shared the country's "grief and horror".
    Kenneth Fishburn tribute A message of sympathy where Kenneth Fishburn was shot in Egremont

    Hospital sources told the BBC that one injured woman in her 20s was being treated for gunshot wounds to her chest, arm and side.

    Another man, believed to be a local taxi driver, suffered a serious gunshot wound to his hand. He was due to be transferred to a hospital in Newcastle in the next 24 hours for plastic surgery.

    One patient, already transferred to Newcastle, was said to have serious head injuries.

    Stuart Hyde, Cumbria Police's Deputy Chief Constable, said more than 100 officers were investigating the murders.

    He said: "We are still at a very early stage in our investigation and we are not able to really understand the motivation behind it - or establish whether this was a premeditated or random attack.

    "Current indications are that 12 people have died, plus Derrick Bird. And a number of people are also receiving treatment in hospital.

    "We are working hard to support the families of those involved and our focus is now on gathering as much evidence as possible to build up a clear picture of what happened this morning.

    "We want to clearly understand his possession of these weapons, what happened, what went wrong and why he decided to use these to shoot people.

    Mr Hyde added that investigators would be speaking to people who knew Mr Bird about the days leading up to the rampage.

    He said: "What we want to do is ensure we understand what has happened, speak to people about him, his life, what has gone on in the last few days, what might have turned somebody into a killer."
    Gary Purdham (l) and Darren Rewcastle Shooting victims Gary Purdham (left) and Darren Rewcastle

    Anyone concerned about the whereabouts of relatives should contact Cumbria Police's Casualty Bureau hotline.

    After the first shooting, witnesses said Mr Bird drove through Whitehaven with a gun hanging out of his car window, then headed south through Gosforth and Seascale before turning inland.

    As well as Whitehaven, fatalities have been confirmed in Egremont, Seascale and Gosforth.

    As he began his first Prime Minister's Questions today, David Cameron said the House of Commons would be "alarmed and shocked by the events unfolding in Cumbria".

    He said: "When lives and communities are suddenly shattered in this way, our thoughts should be with all those caught up in these tragic events, especially the families and friends of those killed or injured."

    After the killings, detectives said 52-year-old Mr Bird drove to the central Lakes in a Citroen Picasso, then abandoned it in the Boot area.

    Before his body was discovered, people living nearby were urged to stay indoors for their own protection.

    Helicopters and armed officers from other police forces were brought in to help apprehend the gunman.

    Cyclist Barrie Moss: "I saw he had a rifle and then he stared at me"

    Mr Hyde added: "We have a number of crime scenes across the county, which are being staffed by police officers, and I would ask people to show a little bit of restraint and respect in regard to those scenes as we try and piece together exactly what has gone on."

    A major incident has been declared at West Cumberland Hospital, in Whitehaven, where the NHS said all routine operations had been cancelled.

    The accident and emergency department at the Cumberland Infirmary in Carlisle is also on full incident stand-by, the hospital trust said.

    West Cumbria University Hospitals Trust deputy chief executive Kevin Clarkson, speaking from West Cumberland Hospital in Whitehaven, said: "The hospital's trust is part of the community it serves and our staff share in the grief.

    "The following is an update on those who are most seriously injured. Three casualties are in a critical condition, five are in a serious condition."

    The Sellafield nuclear reprocessing plant in west Cumbria closed its gates as a safety precaution and afternoon shift workers were told to stay away, though the site later reopened.
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    A local taxi firm boss, Glenda Pears, said: "We just don't know what's happened.

    "He [Derrick Bird] was friends with everybody and used to stand and joke on Duke Street."

    Sue Matthews, a telephonist at A2B Taxis in Whitehaven, said the Mr Bird was self-employed and lived alone. She described him as a "quiet fellow".
    FYI, For the most part in the UK they can only own long double barrel shot guns with large amounts of paper work involved. The reason for such harsh gun laws is because of similar shootings in the past and knee jerk reactions.

    Any one want to take bets that the UK is going to have a similar reaction and probably attempt to ban guns out right?

    Doesn't affect me nonetheless, Noticed the Gun Laws were way too crazy here and decided i would just wait tell i moved back to the states.
    SSG US ARMY
  • #2
    five.five-six
    CGN Contributor
    • May 2006
    • 34847

    if they would just employ stronger gun restrictions, none of this would have ever happened

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    • #3
      TNP'R
      Calguns Addict
      • May 2010
      • 7832

      Originally posted by five.five-six
      if they would just employ stronger gun restrictions, none of this would have ever happened
      yeah no so sure about that one. i hope your being sarcastic.

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      • #4
        Black Majik
        Calguns Addict
        • Oct 2005
        • 9695

        Originally posted by TNP'R
        yeah no so sure about that one. i hope your being sarcastic.
        Please replace the batteries in your sarcasm meter.

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        • #5
          five.five-six
          CGN Contributor
          • May 2006
          • 34847

          Originally posted by Black Majik
          Please replace the batteries in your sarcasm meter.
          or get a new meter, try one of those solar jobbies.... that way he will never be in question



          it is a very sad story, too bad none of the victims were allowed to defend themselves

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          • #6
            craneman
            • Jan 2010
            • 1329

            Well I, for one, am deeply saddened by the news that inocent people were killed. I don't care where they are from. Somebody loves and misses them, and lives of the relitives and loved ones are torn apart too.

            Evidently it is possible for a criminal to get a hold of a weapon, even though most types are banned there. Same old song. It says someone saw him with a rifle hanging out the car window. Maybe he was allowed to have one for hunting purposes? I hope the "Brady Bunch" are watching, and scratching their heads. More than likely they are just tuning it out.
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            Stupid people don't know they are stupid. Because they are stupid. They will follow evil geniuses and do their bidding, because they are stupid.

            Really super stupid people look up to, and follow stupid people like they were geniuses, because to them, they are. Unfortunately the reality of it is, that doesn't make stupid people any smarter.

            That right there is the root cause to most problems in the world.

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            • #7
              develown
              Member
              • May 2010
              • 234

              some one with a CCW could of quickly ended that one, but that's life on Anti-Gun Island (as i like to call it). For those not familiar with the UK, the police don't even carry guns here. If there's an incident they have to call a "fire arms squad" with an approx 10-15 minute response time.

              I'm still looking through the news to find out if the weapons were owned legally or not, seen a lot of different reports on the guys weapons, shotgun, a rifle, pistol, who knows. However, knowing this place they are probably gonna enact some legislation regardless of the legality of the weapons.
              SSG US ARMY

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              • #8
                berg
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2005
                • 1963

                The news report I heard said he used a shotgun and a .22lr, both of which are still legal to own there ( I believe) if not semi-auto.
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                The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so sure of themselves, and wiser people are full of doubts. - Bertrand Russell

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                • #9
                  TNP'R
                  Calguns Addict
                  • May 2010
                  • 7832

                  Originally posted by Black Majik
                  Please replace the batteries in your sarcasm meter.
                  Originally posted by berg
                  The news report I heard said he used a shotgun and a .22lr, both of which are still legal to own there ( I believe) if not semi-auto.
                  they wont be for long

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                  • #10
                    berg
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 1963

                    Here's a video of the news in the UK talking about if new gun laws are now necessary:
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                    The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so sure of themselves, and wiser people are full of doubts. - Bertrand Russell

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