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  • karatebum
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2008
    • 593

    new scope by DARPA

    I don't think this is a repost, if it is, choke on it dupe po po!!

    best part about this article, is a hint on a 7000 meter bullet in the works...




    US military boffins are about to produce a field-ready computer gunsight which will let snipers kill people on their first shot from a mile away - even with troublesome winds blowing.

    The technical issues facing the so-called "One Shot" project have already been solved using prototype equipment, and it is now planned to produce 15 "fully operational and field hardened" sets of gear for further development trials on the battlefield.

    Modern-day sniper rifles can easily throw their bullets across tremendously long distances, but beyond a certain point it becomes impossibly difficult to adjust the aim to allow for atmospheric effects - in particular for the wind. It can also be a time-consuming business allowing for all the changing factors which can affect the path of a bullet's flight - range, temperature, atmospheric pressure, the spin of the projectile itself, the relative heights of the target and shooter.

    Thus it is that very long-range hits beyond 2km do get made, but they are rarities. The current combat sniping record is nowadays generally credited to Corporal of Horse* Craig Harrison of the British Army, who hit and killed two Taliban machine-gunners at a distance of 2,474 metres in November last year in as many shots - and then destroyed their weapon with a third round.

    Harrison was able to make these astonishing shots, however, because - in his words - "conditions were perfect, no wind, mild weather, clear visibility".

    The previous record-holder, Corporal Rob Furlong of the 3rd battalion, Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry, killed an al-Qaeda gunman at 2,430m in 2002 - but took several shots to get a hit. Furlong may also have been aided by the thin air high in the Shah-i-Kot valley where he was fighting at the time

    First breadboard, then brassboard. Then it's ready for the brass hats to see it
    But in general, even powerful sniper rifles like Harrison's L115A3 Long Range Rifle (aka the Arctic Warfare Super Magnum** from Accuracy International) aren't expected to achieve a first-shot kill further off than 600m, and "harassing fire" to 1100m. In particular, the estimation of crosswinds between the shooter and the target is usually a matter of educated guesswork. Then, making the right corrections for range, height, bullet spin, temperature, air pressure etc can take so long that the target has moved away before the sniper can shoot.

    But it seems that there's no need for this to be the case. US military trials have found that a laser beam shone on the target can do more than just determine the range: it can also be used to "measure the average down range crosswind profile". The laser information can be combined with automatic readings of temperature, humidity etc and a "ballistic solution" computed.

    Then a set of artificial crosshairs can be generated in the rifle showing where the bullet will actually strike. These can then be moved onto the target. Alongside the crosshairs is a constantly updated readout of how reliable the calculated aim point is and how likely it is to shift during the time the bullet is in flight (perhaps several seconds at long ranges). This lets the sniper choose the right time to shoot.

    Such equipment has been tried out by US snipers working with a "brassboard" prototype setup (that is, one a bit more developed than a breadboard rig, but still not ready for actual field use). According to the "One Shot" project's managers:

    The brass-board system was tested by trained snipers and designated marksmen under varying environmental conditions up to 1100 meters and 5-8 m/s average crosswinds. The brassboard system demonstrated a marked capability as compared to current sniper system. Under all test conditions, the brassboard system significantly improved the first round hit probability, required fewer rounds, and less time to get the first hit vs users without the One Shot system.
    Now the idea is to integrate the brassboard equipment into a special nightsight/thermal/optical telescope instrument to replace the one carried by the sniper team's spotter, linked either wirelessly or by a cable to a display widget attached to the scope on the sniper's rifle. The new smartscope will hold the various lasers, instruments and calculating hardware necessary to generate the virtual crosshairs in the gunsight display

    These days, million-to-one shots come off six times out of ten
    The system is to be fully ruggedised and ready for field use, and will be capable of identifying a target as hostile and measuring crosswinds out to 1500m in daylight (and lesser ranges using thermal or nightsight vision in the dark). There's to be a menu allowing it to be used with the most common sniper/marksman rounds: 7.62mm NATO, .338 Lapua magnum and .300 Winchester magnum.

    Fifteen hundred metres doesn't come close to the record-breaking efforts of Harrison, Furlong and the legendary Carlos Hathcock before them: but those were exceptional circumstances. Most professional snipers on most days would be very impressed by a first-round hit at 1500m.

    Given the nature of the project it's no surprise to find that our old friends at the Pentagon bonkers-boffinry bureau DARPA are behind One Shot. It is, after all, a machine for making sure that extremely unlikely feats can be achieved almost every time - DARPA's institutional desires writ short. The project might almost have been dubbed the Discworld-effect generator or similar: it's well known that in Terry Pratchett's magical universe million-to-one shots come off nine times out of ten. (Actually DARPA are only asking for a 60 per cent chance of a first shot kill, but there.)

    One Shot is actually quite realistic and achievable for DARPA, in fact: similar technology has already been demonstrated in the computing gunsight of the XM-25 smartgun, which is able to lob a miniature 25mm exploding shell with such precision it will explode just beyond a street corner, windowsill, trench parapet etc to shower a hidden enemy with shrapnel regardless of his protective cover.

    True, hardcore DARPA fans will have to wait for the related EXACTO project, in which a heavy .50-calibre bullet will be furnished with guidance fins allowing it to steer itself in on a laser dot like a tiny smartbomb - presumably scoring first-shot kills at ranges of 6,000 or even 7,000m, making One Shot look like old hat.

    That really does sound like DARPA - making tomorrow's technology obsolete today
  • #2
    socalblue
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2010
    • 811

    Essentially a miniaturization of the system used in the M1 series tank. Sounds like a well thought out idea (Placing in spotting system so as not to weigh down the weapon system) & using a cable (Or even secure wireless) to the sniper system optic. Should work even if the SWS has regular optics by calling the manual adjustment

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    • #3
      Sunwolf
      Calguns Addict
      • May 2008
      • 7445

      Easier to use mortars at those ranges.

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      • #4
        base64
        Member
        • Feb 2009
        • 367

        Sounds a bit complicated to have the one-shot system as an external spotting unit that is attached. Wires cause clutter, and wifi over high frequencies just isn't very reliable even from 12 inches away.

        Nonetheless, it sounds amazing and is reminiscent of one of my favorite TV shows where a futuristic sniper not only has a powerful computer system to calculate ballistics, but he even has a cybernetic eye implant to aid his visual perception.

        We are not far off from this in terms of science!

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        • #5
          MP301
          Veteran Member
          • Oct 2008
          • 4168

          Originally posted by karatebum
          I don't think this is a repost, if it is, choke on it dupe po po!!
          Now, that is some funny ****! Dude, you get ten points for this! I guess you will be wanting to join my "Beat the living crap outta the dupe police until they mind their own F'n business" club? Bahahahaha.

          Did you know that the only Police bashing allowed here is the Spelling and dupe police?
          Any Questions about Front Sight memberships or specific information about attending, Feel Free to send me a PM!

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          • #6
            karatebum
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2008
            • 593

            Originally posted by MP301
            Now, that is some funny ****! Dude, you get ten points for this! I guess you will be wanting to join my "Beat the living crap outta the dupe police until they mind their own F'n business" club? Bahahahaha.

            Did you know that the only Police bashing allowed here is the Spelling and dupe police?
            Heck ya, sign me up. I don't mind the dupe police if they come out and put down a mob that is forming(4 posts on AZ immigration law in 3 hours), but man, when they pull you over for a thread from 6 months ago on some information that is not on very many websites(radness of calguns, and our squirrel army of intelligence gatherers/sharers), it is total dupe police brutality. So whats the name of our org going to be? Dupewatch?

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            • #7
              m1aowner
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2006
              • 2300

              What took so long? When will Leupold make one of those bad boys?.......mmmmm probably never.

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              • #8
                xibunkrlilkidsx
                Calguns Addict
                • Sep 2008
                • 5419

                Originally posted by karatebum
                Heck ya, sign me up. I don't mind the dupe police if they come out and put down a mob that is forming(4 posts on AZ immigration law in 3 hours), but man, when they pull you over for a thread from 6 months ago on some information that is not on very many websites(radness of calguns, and our squirrel army of intelligence gatherers/sharers), it is total dupe police brutality. So whats the name of our org going to be? Dupewatch?

                good im not the only one who gets tired of seeing pole with zero life remember that kind of stuff.



                but seriously that is awesome idea. but really would be easier to just call in a b-2 bomber lol.
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