How to deal with Liberal anti-gun family members?

[KillZone45]

This might have been covered before so please excuse me in advance. Quick little story, my Ex (Now just a roommate) and her sister own the house we are in. My Ex lives here with me and another roomie, her sister lives in SD with her own family. Long story short their father passed away about 2 years ago and willed the house to his two daughters. Well we have been cleaning up the house to get it in a better, more live-able shape. In the Ex's room their is a safe in the closet and the married sister than lives in SD took the key back home. So today I message the one sister (Andrea) and ask her politely if she can bring the key up from SD this weekend so I can take a look at what firearms might be in the safe. In an earlier convo a few weeks ago I asked her what her plans were for the guns. She said she is against guns this and that and wants them destroyed so they "dont get into the wrong hands" yet said she might let her Uncles have a look at them to see if any of them wants them. Now where is the logic in that? Fast forward to today and this is a quick snippet of the convo I had with here thinking that it would be a quick conversation.

Me-"Could you bring down the safe key and the spare house key when you come down Sunday? Thanks in advance!

-Ryan "

Andrea- "why do you want the safe key? "

Me- "Because their is some guns in there that I want to look at. Gotta look at them some time."

Andrea- "I will bring you your house key, but I am going to talk to (sister) about the guns. In my opinion, my dad would have never let you "play" with his guns. If she wants one or some for herself...cool...otherwise...no dice.

No offense, but I know you know where my family and i stand on this one."

Me- "WOW! Play? Are you serious? Sorry I am an adult and know how to handle firearms. You amaze me sometimes, I think you shouldn't handle them ever because you have no clue what so ever about proper firearm handling.

NO offense though...... "

So how do you guys deal with people like this that are so closed minded? BTW her and her husband are way ProBama.

Sorry for the novel.

[Scratch705]

their guns, their rules. they can throw them all in the melting pot and you can't do anything.

you can never convince an anti-gunner. the only people you can convince are the moderates who only think they hate guns, but only because the media tells them so.

plus, if your quote is exactly what you said. the tone of how you asked to see the guns is not exactly confidence inducing. what you should have said was

"I was hoping to take a look at the guns, and see if possibly there are anything valuable/collectible that you guys can sell for money, or if possible if i may buy some from you guys."

[Cokebottle]

Its her sisters dads guns, or your ex father in law. So I don't see why your entitled to your ex's guns. You don't mention that you ex father in law said you could look at them.

+1

Ex, not "wife".

You have no claim to any of those guns unless they were specifically willed to you, and if you wanted any of them, you would have to transfer them through an FFL.

[KillZone45]

I know that I am not entitled to any of these guns, I am not trying to get anything for free. That has never been my intentions, and and BTW me and her sister ended the conversation on a good note, she actually seemed more pissed at her husband for undermining her.

[KillZone45]

"I was hoping to take a look at the guns, and see if possibly there are anything valuable/collectible that you guys can sell for money, or if possible if i may buy some from you guys."

Yeah I know that I could have gone at it in a better way, hind sight is 20/20 I guess.

[KillZone45]

Its her sisters dads guns, or your ex father in law. So I don't see why your entitled to your ex's guns. You don't mention that you ex father in law said you could look at them.

I should not have named the thread with family members in it. Its my Ex girlfriends, and he passed away pretty suddenly and I did not know that he had guns till I was showed them a little bit ago.

[Army]

Apparently she thinks her deceased father was some sort of crazed nut too, what with him and all those icky guns in his wrong hands...

[AJAX22]

Offer to buy whatever is in the safe...

You just want to make sure they are 'disposed of properly....'

after all it is probably not safe for them to keep then in the house without proper training...

[KillZone45]

Offer to buy whatever is in the safe...

You just want to make sure they are 'disposed of properly....'

after all it is probably not safe for them to keep then in the house without proper training...

She doesnt want them to "get in the wrong hands" yet she said she might let her Uncles look/have them. They know zilch about guns. Basically if their was a super valuable gun in the safe she would rather "have it disposed of properly". She HATES let me repeat HATES that I have my XD on the nightstand. She thinks that it should be in a safe so no one gets hurt

[KillZone45]

Nothing you can do if your ex doesn't want to give them to you. Sounds like she rather keep the guns in the family, or destroy them.

She could care less if they were in the family, she wants All GUNS destroyed.

[bsg]

probably best to withdraw from the situation. otherwise communicate only with your ex regarding this matter and not her family member that has already strongly rejected your wishes and your request. surviving family members can be very sensitive regarding a deceased relative's belongings. regardless of this woman's anti gun beliefs, i don't think that is the real issue here....

-Brady

[Bill Carson]

those guns are not your guns. none of your business what the family does with them and you are not entitled to see touch or have them.

[Thefeeder]

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I'll put $20.00 bucks on " tune will change"

[BillCA]

I don't agree that it's "none of his business" or that there is nothing he can do if the family wants to destroy the guns.

There are opportunities here. All it takes is the right conversation and proper respect.

Ask if they'd like to sell the safe itself. If so, you can get the info and advertise it here and tell the family that it'll be used to lock up other guns for "safety" reasons. Of course, that means getting the key and inspecting the safe before the sale.

Let them know that you have access to people who can help evaluate their father's guns. Any that have historical value or are scarce "collector's items" can be identified, a value assigned and legally sold to collectors who invest in them like others collect model trains of value or rare stamps. They'll spend their time in other safes.

Ask if there is a "sentimental" gun they associate with their father they they'd like to keep. Offer to help remove the firing pin (or other part) to make it non-functional if that's a stumbling block and offer to clean and oil it for them before they store it. If a military or police handgun is involved, suggest creating a framed memorial to their father (after removing the mainspring perhaps). This may give them comfort that they'll have something of his to remember him.

Guns with typical values in the $200 to $550 range aren't impressive to a lot of folks, but keep a tally of them, it adds up fast. Let them know the total worth of the collection and what to expect in terms of revenue and the time it'll take to sell on consignment. Telling them they have $8500 is saleable goods versus $0 to $100 of scrap iron can be persuasive.



Engraved guns should be singled out as "artistic works" and some comparisons given on the difference in value as well as use. To preserve their worth most engraved guns are seldom fired. A .357 like the above may fetch up to $700 in stock condition but over $1800 with the engraving.

If the father owned any guns that are just "crappy" guns (Jennings, Bryco, Raven, etc.) offer to take them apart to prevent use and destroy the frames. The parts can be easily sold as replacement parts.

If you find there is something you'd like to have, be prepared to pay a fair value for it. Don't agree to provide your time for nothing, but suggest that issue be addressed later. That way, you might get your choice of something in compensation or a very discounted price.

You can always suggest that any money gained be turned back into home improvements or adding additional security to the sisters' homes.

[bsg]

the woman has made it clear that she doesn't want our member to have anything to do with the safe or it's contents. i suspect her anti gun stance has nothing to do with this issue as she has already said that family members are welcome to check these guns out. he should respect that. if he must continue with this he should restrict his communication regarding this subject to his ex, whom he resides with. if his ex doesn't want to exercise her inheritance rights to assist our member, then it's a done deal and he should have enough class to once and for all... let it go. perhaps i missed something here, but that is my opinion....

-Brady