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  • shabr66
    Member
    • Feb 2009
    • 191

    A frustrating NY Times article!

    Read this:



    Notice how the author managed to turn the attempted bombing incident into a discussion about the evil gun the suspect legally purchased... Thank goodness he just tried to detonate a car bomb and didn't utilize the weapon of mass destruction... A very intimidating weapon of mass destruction that is!
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    sniper5
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 723

    Hardly surprising. Anti-gunners were calling for more gun control laws after the 9/11 incident in which terrorists used box cutters to hijack planes. Any excuse to further an agenda whether it has anything to do with an issue or not.
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    • #3
      jdewolf
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2009
      • 1846

      "The terrorists in Mumbai, India, in 2008 carried out a rampage that killed more than 160 people chiefly with the use of automatic weapons"

      I fail to see what this has to do with this case. What's the point? We aren't anywhere near India. The weapons used and what he bought aren't even remotely related to one another beyond the fact they both go boom. Let's toss spew out some other irrelevant numbers as well... 41,611 auto deaths in 1999. There's roughly an average of 120 airline related deaths a year. 90 some odd deaths a year because of lightening.

      Why would a Wookiee, an eight-foot tall Wookiee, want to live on Endor, with a bunch of two-foot tall Ewoks? That does not make sense! But more important, you have to ask yourself: What does this have to do with this case? Nothing. Ladies and gentlemen, it has nothing to do with this case! It does not make sense! Look at me. I'm a lawyer defending a major record company, and I'm talkin' about Chewbacca! Does that make sense? Ladies and gentlemen, I am not making any sense! None of this makes sense! And so you have to remember, when you're in that jury room deliberatin' and conjugatin' the Emancipation Proclamation, does it make sense? No! Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, it does not make sense! If Chewbacca lives on Endor, you must acquit! The defense rests.
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      • #4
        MichaelKent
        Member
        • Jan 2010
        • 420

        I wonder if the writer ever bothered to proof read his own work, because the article isn't consistent. At first he talks about how the wannabe terrorist could have used the very "lethal" and dangerous weapon capable of killing many with its "rapid fire", mentions it could have been used against police and then quotes somebody saying he must have had something "catastrophic" planned...

        Yet as he writes further in his article the police say it's little more than an accurate handgun and that the 9mm rounds weren't going to penetrate police vests. They're actually rather dismissive of the firearm. So what happened to the earlier "catastrophic" and lethal properties against citizens and huge risk to police officers?

        I bet when he started, some part of him was thinking "9mm... just like an AK-47!!"

        India is a poor example... yes terrorists can do a lot with automatic weapons, but those aren't legal in the US... Not to mention he didn't plan a shooting spree, he planned to set off a bomb in Time Square... are we going to rally against fertilizer now? Oh yeah, guns are an easier target...

        Although you can tell immediately if a journalist doesn't get it when he/she makes the common confusion between "magazines" and "clips."
        "The fundamental point [against gun control] is this: Do you take away the liberties of all, do you assume the guilt of all, because some people cannot handle that freedom properly? Imagine if you did, how many other freedoms would have to be taken away." - Peter Hitchens.

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        • #5
          Untamed1972
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Mar 2009
          • 17579

          I caught part of an documentary on HBO about the Mumbai attack. It was very interesting. They had security cam footage from the hotel, and recorded phone calls from the attackers to their handlers and everything. The reality is that a couple of armed citizens would have had a good chance of stopping those guys or at least keeping the death toll to a minimum. Instead the guys roamed freely around the hotel, kicking in doors and shooting people.......and get this.....all while the police/armed responders waited outside trying to figure WTF to do.
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          • #6
            Sinixstar
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2009
            • 1520

            Originally posted by jdewolf
            "The terrorists in Mumbai, India, in 2008 carried out a rampage that killed more than 160 people chiefly with the use of automatic weapons"

            I fail to see what this has to do with this case. What's the point? We aren't anywhere near India. The weapons used and what he bought aren't even remotely related to one another beyond the fact they both go boom. Let's toss spew out some other irrelevant numbers as well... 41,611 auto deaths in 1999. There's roughly an average of 120 airline related deaths a year. 90 some odd deaths a year because of lightening.

            Why would a Wookiee, an eight-foot tall Wookiee, want to live on Endor, with a bunch of two-foot tall Ewoks? That does not make sense! But more important, you have to ask yourself: What does this have to do with this case? Nothing. Ladies and gentlemen, it has nothing to do with this case! It does not make sense! Look at me. I'm a lawyer defending a major record company, and I'm talkin' about Chewbacca! Does that make sense? Ladies and gentlemen, I am not making any sense! None of this makes sense! And so you have to remember, when you're in that jury room deliberatin' and conjugatin' the Emancipation Proclamation, does it make sense? No! Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, it does not make sense! If Chewbacca lives on Endor, you must acquit! The defense rests.

            Oh crap - the chewbacca defense. We're toast!

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            • #7
              Sinixstar
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2009
              • 1520

              Originally posted by Untamed1972
              I caught part of an documentary on HBO about the Mumbai attack. It was very interesting. They had security cam footage from the hotel, and recorded phone calls from the attackers to their handlers and everything. The reality is that a couple of armed citizens would have had a good chance of stopping those guys or at least keeping the death toll to a minimum. Instead the guys roamed freely around the hotel, kicking in doors and shooting people.......and get this.....all while the police/armed responders waited outside trying to figure WTF to do.
              I remember reading about and seeing video at the time - of guards and police in the area at the time actually fleeing instead of trying to help. The police wouldn't go near these guys.

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