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  • only10x
    Veteran Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 2603

    AR MAGS

    ive looked, and apologize in advance if its been covered 1000x before.
    if it has ill appreciate a link etc

    Q. I have 30rd mags I dont want to deal with as is. thought of the idea of selling em outta state. thought of 'fixing' em so they cant take more than 10rds, but im wondering if its legal. these are USGI.

    appreciate your time.
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  • #2
    Quiet
    retired Goon
    • Mar 2007
    • 30242

    If you want to sell them (why would you? once they are gone, you can't get them back), you can legally take them apart and sell them as magazine parts.
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    • #3
      Greg-Dawg
      Banned
      • Oct 2006
      • 7793

      When did you purchase them? Why do you feel guilty owning them?

      Keep them.

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      • #4
        cdtx2001
        CGN Contributor
        • Apr 2009
        • 6630

        Keep em, I wouldn't sell them.

        But if you insist on selling them, take them apart and sell them to me as parts kits.
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        • #5
          CHS
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          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Jan 2008
          • 11338

          It is illegal to sell these in California or "offer or expose for sale" in CA, even if you are going to sell them out of state.

          It's a very poorly worded law, I know, but that means that it's technically illegal to advertise these on say, Gunbroker for sale to someone in another state.

          Best thing to do is break them apart and sell as rebuild kits as Quiet suggested.
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          • #6
            Dr Rockso
            Veteran Member
            • Jan 2008
            • 3701

            If you possessed them in CA prior to 2000 you may keep and use them in featureless rifles. If this is the case don't sell them as they're basically priceless should you ever decide to purchase a rifle that you can legally use them in.

            If you did not possess them in CA prior to 2000 then, under most circumstances, you would be in violation of the law. Disassemble the magazines and either keep or sell the parts (all perfectly legal, the law only applies to functional magazines) or permanently modify them to accept a maximum of 10 rounds (also perfectly legal and instructions for doing so can be found elsewhere on this forum).

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            • #7
              Southpaw45
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2008
              • 2333

              Just keep them under your hat as a momento of how great California use to be..
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              • #8
                evidens83
                Calguns Addict
                • Apr 2009
                • 7839

                Keep em and build a featureless rifle to use them in(assuming they are prebans) or disassemble them and sell them as rebuilds. And you wont be "fixing" them to hold 10rnds, you'd be restricting them to 10rnds
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                • #9
                  Sniper3142
                  Veteran Member
                  • May 2004
                  • 2579

                  Originally posted by only10x
                  Q. I have 30rd mags I dont want to deal with as is.
                  What do you mean "deal with"?!?

                  There are NO special handling, storage, or use requirements associated with Large Capacity mags. There is nothing to "deal with".
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                  • #10
                    only10x
                    Veteran Member
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 2603

                    Thank you all for your input. I realize the mags are legal to own even shoot with the right rifle, unfortunately I have an 'evil' rifle and doubt I will build up a 'good' aka featureless. So ultimately theres crux to the post, if I cant take em out to shoot wouldn't it make more sense for me to restrict em to 10rds.
                    A suggestion above made me think to ask, if an individual orders all the components one needs to build a hi-cap mag and does so isnt the result the 'same' as someone who legally obtained a hi-cap mag prior to jan 2000 ?
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                    • #11
                      Dr Rockso
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 3701

                      Originally posted by only10x
                      Thank you all for your input. I realize the mags are legal to own even shoot with the right rifle, unfortunately I have an 'evil' rifle and doubt I will build up a 'good' aka featureless. So ultimately theres crux to the post, if I cant take em out to shoot wouldn't it make more sense for me to restrict em to 10rds.
                      Why, to save $15? In 5 years you might change your mind and buy a Volquartsen Evolution .223 or build a featureless AR to shoot 3-gun matches and you'll be kicking yourself. Heck, in 5 years CGF may have defeated the features ban in court but we might still have a magazine ban in place, so who knows if you'll ever be able to use those 30-rounders in an evil rifle.

                      Originally posted by only10x
                      A suggestion above made me think to ask, if an individual orders all the components one needs to build a hi-cap mag and does so isnt the result the 'same' as someone who legally obtained a hi-cap mag prior to jan 2000 ?
                      ::
                      Yes, manufacturing is prohibited (just like selling and importing). Rebuild kits can not be legally used to manufacture new magazines.

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                      • #12
                        RideIcon
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 1504

                        Originally posted by Dr Rockso
                        If you possessed them in CA prior to 2000 you may keep and use them in featureless rifles.
                        If you have possession of them now, just keep them, and use them in a featureless gun! possession is not illegal!!
                        I would never give up a high cap magazine!
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                        • #13
                          Army
                          Veteran Member
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 3915

                          No "build", just get a Monsterman grip and have fun.
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                          • #14
                            slik556
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 1192

                            Originally posted by Army
                            No "build", just get a Monsterman grip and have fun.
                            You still need to take off all the other evil features too! not just the pistol grip.
                            Last edited by slik556; 05-05-2010, 6:38 PM.
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                            • #15
                              bigthaiboy
                              Veteran Member
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 4795

                              Used USGI mags in free states are worth very little. If you're planning on making 10/30 mags just buy new mags as parts kits from these people for $10 each : http://www.44mag.com/products.asp?dept=1326

                              Keep your pre-2000 mags, as they are irreplaceable in this State unless the hi-cap laws ever change.

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