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  • #61
    Tenamaxtle
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2008
    • 1969

    Originally posted by tomd1584
    when you cant decide what bandwagon to jump on:




    I don't get the logic behind the AVG, if its better than the VFG, would that mean that a MMG is better than a pistol grip?
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    • #62
      CSACANNONEER
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      • Dec 2006
      • 44093

      Originally posted by SgtDinosaur
      I was just thinking maybe I could hit the broad side of a barn with my Black Widow if I had one of those. Saw it in the CTD catalog too. As it is I would have to shove the barrel up someone's nostril to make an impact.
      At up to seven yards, I have no trouble keeping a 8"-10" group with a NAA revolver or my other mouse guns. If you can't hit the broad side of a barn, get a little professional instruction. I'm not saying that you can't shoot, I'm saying that, sometimes an instructor will be able to see what you are doing wrong and help you correct it.
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      • #63
        smird
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        • May 2009
        • 8307

        Originally posted by hawk84
        am i blind or is there no BCG there?
        I think it's just the pieces that got painted.

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        • #64
          SgtDinosaur
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2008
          • 1386

          Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
          At up to seven yards, I have no trouble keeping a 8"-10" group with a NAA revolver or my other mouse guns. If you can't hit the broad side of a barn, get a little professional instruction. I'm not saying that you can't shoot, I'm saying that, sometimes an instructor will be able to see what you are doing wrong and help you correct it.
          Since I get good groups with my many other firearms, I think I would be wasting money (and maybe humiliating myself) by paying an instructor to help me fire my NAA revolver. I suspect more practice would solve the problem since I hardly ever fire the little bugger. I do fine with the P3-AT, but that one does get shot. And my Glock 27 shoots amazingly well. Perhaps I made that broad side of the barn comment with my tongue in my cheek. I keep forgetting that humor does not translate well on the internet. I can keep most of the rounds on a paper plate.
          Last edited by SgtDinosaur; 04-16-2010, 12:34 PM.
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          • #65
            CSACANNONEER
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            • Dec 2006
            • 44093

            Originally posted by SgtDinosaur
            Since I get good groups with my many other firearms, I think I would be wasting money (and maybe humiliating myself) by paying an instructor to help me fire my NAA revolver. I suspect more practice would solve the problem since I hardly ever fire the little bugger. I do fine with the P3-AT, but that one does get shot. And my Glock 27 shoots amazingly well. Perhaps I made that broad side of the barn comment with my tongue in my cheek. I keep forgetting that humor does not translate well on the internet. I can keep most of the rounds on a paper plate.
            The problem with the little guns is that the littlest thing you do wrong makes a huge difference. Seriously, have someone watch you shoot one and see if they can figure out the problem. It could be as simple as the way it fits your hand or that you are uncomfortable firing such a small gun. I know, it took me a while to feel comfortable shooting them. If you can keep all the rounds on a paper plate at 7 yards, that's about what I can do and, I think that it what the gun was intended to do.

            If you ever need to hit the broad side of a barn and are having trouble, try shooting from inside the barn. I find that it has helped me.
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            • #66
              b.faust
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              • Apr 2008
              • 1576

              And of course a classic:



              I think there is a rifle under all that.
              Last edited by b.faust; 04-16-2010, 2:52 PM.
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              • #67
                Sh00tFurst
                Member
                • Apr 2010
                • 447

                Looking to put an M900 on my shotgun. And yes it cost more than the whole entire gun.

                What do you guys think?

                Will it hold up?
                WTB: 10-round magazines for G21SF (with ambi-cuts)

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                • #68
                  bluestaterebel
                  Veteran Member
                  • Feb 2006
                  • 3052

                  Originally posted by Sh00tFurst
                  Looking to put an M900 on my shotgun. And yes it cost more than the whole entire gun.

                  What do you guys think?

                  Will it hold up?
                  The Surefire M900 is a cool and useful product..But its sooo expensive, almost not worth it...but if you have that kind of money...go for it
                  Originally posted by 11Z50
                  Since your myopic view is in concurrence with your cognizant lifespan on this planet, obviously less than 20 years, I will grant you a dispensation.

                  Figure that out and exercise your mind.....

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                  • #69
                    dodge
                    Member
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 488

                    having only read the first post.....
                    that useless laser sight (1st post) would allow the operator the ability to acquire target w/out having to actually be looking @ said target
                    ie. around a corner
                    also most people when they see a dot on them, as in the laser sighted on their chest, get pretty nervous or run away

                    a bit of bling, but certainly a useful tool on any firearm, pistol or rifle


                    how bout a tactical light & front grip, completely wasteful
                    although it would assure i'm shooting the correct person whenever complete darkness is an issue
                    person on another forum was talking about why would you ever need a tactical light afraid of how many other people feel the same way or would literally shoot into complete darkness in your own home not knowing for sure who you're shooting @
                    & the additional support of the weapon w/front grip is beneficial as well


                    the factory sig stl 100 lumen light appears much brighter than the costco 160 lumen bulb. so costco is rating their lights too high & perhaps sig is rating theirs on the low side so people are impressed
                    their crenulated bezel isn't as aggressive as the costco light, but that again it's mounted to a firearm & probably wouldn't use it to inflict injury to anyone
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                    • #70
                      dodge
                      Member
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 488

                      Originally posted by Sh00tFurst
                      Looking to put an M900 on my shotgun. And yes it cost more than the whole entire gun.

                      What do you guys think?

                      Will it hold up?

                      watchmaker, a member here on calguns, makes an amazing tactical light
                      & it's rechargeable or you have the option of buying one that's rechargeable
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                      • #71
                        Rob454
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                        • Feb 2006
                        • 11254

                        Originally posted by corrupt


                        It's actually pretty cool after you know what it is... at least without really knowing much about it.
                        Looks like a Saiga 12 with a drum mag but whats with the mag in the front? Super short barrel shotgun under the normal size shotgun? in place of a grenade launcher?

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                        • #72
                          Suhleen
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 1223

                          Originally posted by Sh00tFurst
                          Looking to put an M900 on my shotgun. And yes it cost more than the whole entire gun.

                          What do you guys think?

                          Will it hold up?
                          I acquired one in a trade and initially stuck it on my HD 870 just to test out the light. I like it so much I left it on and it has handled many many rounds of 00 buck without issue.

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                          • #73
                            Sh00tFurst
                            Member
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 447

                            Originally posted by Suhleen
                            I acquired one in a trade and initially stuck it on my HD 870 just to test out the light. I like it so much I left it on and it has handled many many rounds of 00 buck without issue.
                            Sweet. Glad to see I'm not the only ninja in the house. My light is on its way.
                            WTB: 10-round magazines for G21SF (with ambi-cuts)

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                            • #74
                              winnre
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 9214

                              "If Jesus had a gun he would be alive today"-Homer Simpson

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                              • #75
                                winnre
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                                • Apr 2010
                                • 9214

                                "If Jesus had a gun he would be alive today"-Homer Simpson

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