Getting free gun locks from the Police? (Sacramento)

[tman]

I need a gun lock when I go to pickup my handgun next week.

I heard that Police departments give them out for free.

Since I live in the country, I called the local Sheriff for information. The person I spoke with had no information for me.

Then, I called the Police station.

The lady I spoke with knew just as much as the last guy. She put me on hold, then came back and said she could transfer me to someone who could help me.

Next thing I know I am talking to the ATF!

That guy also had no clue what I was talking about and didn't think anyone offered free locks. Then, someone in the background told him that some Police departments take upon themselves to do it, but that's all he knows.


Anyone able to get one? Do I just show up to the Police station?

[theseacow]

You would need a receipt showing that you bought the gunlock within the last 30 days or something like that. Just fill out the safe waiver for that safe you bought last year....

Santa Clara police give out free locks but they are not DOJ/kali approved.

[naimad]

You would need a receipt showing that you bought the gunlock within the last 30 days or something like that. Just fill out the safe waiver for that safe you bought last year....

Santa Clara police give out free locks but they are not DOJ/kali approved.

I think the lock deal is a federal law thats been around for a while a safe wont work for this and you need a receipt that shows purchase within the last 30 days for the lock

[Technical Ted]

Go to Walmart, pick up their blue $4.95 DAC cable lock.

Keep the origianl receipt--give the dealer a copy.

Return the lock.

Perfectly legal under the wording of the law.

Find someone who has a CA approved lock they purchased and never used and pay them $0.01 for it.

Make sure they print up a receipt. Give that to the dealer.

Return the lock.

Perfectly legal under the wording of the law.

[Technical Ted]

I think the lock deal is a federal law thats been around for a while a safe wont work for this and you need a receipt that shows purchase within the last 30 days for the lock

So utterly wrong I won't even bother to correct.

[AJAX22]

I thought the 'project childsafe' gunlocks were CA approved? wasn't there something about being able to get a reciept from the police when you pick them up?

[naimad]

So utterly wrong I won't even bother to correct.

You want to clarify on that ive been told this by three different gun shops when making a firearm purchase ppt

[50 Freak]

Nope the project childsafe locks are NOT APPROVED.....

Personally I pick up as many as possible. I use them to hang up the heavy steel plates that I use to shoot at.

[guimus]

Nope the project childsafe locks are NOT APPROVED.....

Personally I pick up as many as possible. I use them to hang up the heavy steel plates that I use to shoot at.

I use them to lock my kids to their beds when they're bad.

[Hunter]

So utterly wrong I won't even bother to correct.

Actually based on the recent threads on the matter, this is the way I understand it now...

Fed requires a lock with all handguns. CA DOJ says either locks or safes. BUT the kicker is that CA DOJ says ANY lock sold for a handgun MUST be on their approved list. So that means one needs a lock for a handgun to satisfy the Feds, and the DOJ says that lock must meet their standards....eventhough it is to satisfy the Federal requirement.

Bottomline is that one must get a CA DOJ approved lock just to meet Fed standards here in the state. Now since you have an approved lock for the Feds, it also satisfies CA DOJ's requirement of a lock, so the safe waiver is a moot point for handguns.


Edit: Ok I found the thread talking about this issue here: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...dgun+lock+safe

The key point made is summarized here:

Actually, there is a Federal Law requiring a safety lock with the purchase of a Handgun. Sorry: it was SA1626. The other I referenced was the attempt to gut it. They attached it to this bill in 06. It passed and is current Federal Law. Thanks to the clowns at the Brady Campaign. All Handgun purchases require a safety lock. The Ca-DOJ requires all locks to be on the approved list.

This is the relevant section for the Ca-DOJ Safety device.

12088.15. (a) No person shall keep for commercial sale, offer, or expose for commercial sale, or commercially sell any firearms safety device that is not listed on the roster maintained pursuant to subdivision (d) of Section 12088, or that does not comply with the standards for firearms safety devices adopted pursuant to Section 12088.2.
(b) No person may distribute as part of an organized firearm safety program, with or without consideration, any firearm safety device that is not listed on the roster maintained pursuant to subdivision (d) of Section 12088 or does not comply with the standards for firearms safety devices adopted pursuant to Section 12088.2.

This is why they couldn't just let me go with the included lock. It is a catch-22. The Feds require a safety lock and they don't care if you have a safe unless you're buying it right then. No safe affidavits for the feds. The state will accept a safe affidavit but, any locks have to be on the approved list. Since the Feds want a lock and the state wants all locks to be approved, you are going to purchase an approved lock unless the handgun already comes with a CA-DOJ approved lock, regardless if you have a safe or not. Since there is no escaping the approved lock, safe affidavits for handgun purchases is moot. It still works for longguns. Oh well, at least I know for certain that I had to buy it. Lesson learned, and shared.

Tzvia, you could always hang them off a piece of #25 rebar and shoot them with your rifles. I would imagine they would hold up fairly well to .22lr.

[naimad]

Actually based on the recent threads on the matter, this is the way I understand it now...

Fed requires a lock with all handguns. CA DOJ says either locks or safes. BUT the kicker is that CA DOJ says ANY lock sold for a handgun MUST be on their approved list. So that means one needs a lock for a handgun to satisfy the Feds, and the DOJ says that lock must meet their standards....eventhough it is to satisfy the Federal requirement.

Bottomline is that one must get a CA DOJ approved lock just to meet Fed standards here in the state. Now since you have an appoved lock for the Feds, it also satisfies CA DOJ's requirement of a lock, so the safe waiver is a moot point for handguns.


Edit: Ok I found the thread talking about this issue here: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...dgun+lock+safe

The key point made is summarized here:

Thank you

[50 Freak]

I use them to lock my kids to their beds when they're bad.

Hadn't thought of that....been using duct tape on mine.

[AW-FANATIC]

Nope the project childsafe locks are NOT APPROVED.....

Personally I pick up as many as possible. I use them to hang up the heavy steel plates that I use to shoot at.

I just checked the pamphlet that comes with the project childsafe locks and on the back of the first page it says that they are california doj approved. I scanned a copy of the page and Ill try to post it in my next post. It also says that they are supported by a U.S. DOJ grant, so I would assume they are ok under federal law as well. As for the receipt just have whoever gives you the lock write one out at the police station. I have never had any problems here with Petaluma PD.

[AW-FANATIC]

Unfortunately the scan is too big to post here, but it does say, in bold print, "This is a California Department of Justice-approved safety device."

[ldivinag]

Nope the project childsafe locks are NOT APPROVED.....

Personally I pick up as many as possible. I use them to hang up the heavy steel plates that I use to shoot at.

IIRC, don "i have my ccw" perata was part of this silliness.

i rememeber seeing news footage of him and some other people, going door to door in in oakland passing them out.