50 cal question

[newshooter215]

i know that the 50 cal rifle is banned to buy in California but can u still buy one from someone who already owns one here like if it was grandfathered in ?

[bwiese]

.50BMG rifles (and only .50BMG rifles, no other .50 variant is banned) are treated like assault weapons. They required specific registration and have greater limits on their transportation, use and transfer than normal firearms.

Thus you cannot acquire a 50BMG rifle.

However, you can get a 510DTC which offers equal performace and is not banned.

[newshooter215]

thats awsome...where can u pick one up at and how much would u say they run on price?

[CSACANNONEER]

Most manufacturers of 50BMG rifle will also chamber a rifle in .510 DTC for you. How muxh do you want to spend on one? What do you want it to be capable of? For less than $6000, you can build a rifle capable of sub .5moa groups at 1000 yards. That price includes NXS, rings, case, etc. You can actually find complete rifles (no optics) from the low $2K range to over $20K.

[newshooter215]

ok so the 50 dtc is the same as the .510 dtc

[CSACANNONEER]

ok so the 50 dtc is the same as the .510 dtc

Yes. I know of at least three different variations though.

[newshooter215]

who manufactures these rifles and how do i get ahold of one.also what are the 3 different variations of the round is there

[CSACANNONEER]

Again, what type of 50 are you looking for? What are you going to do with it? What do you expect from it? Are you looking for a cheap, small pen.. compinsator? Are you looking for a custom built benchrest rifle? Do you plan on breaking clay pigeons at 1000 yards or just making a big boom and impressing those that don't know anything about 50s? How much are you willing to spend? I could probably come up with a list of over 20 different manufacturers but, I'm not going to take the time to do it without knowing what you are looking for. If you are even half way serious, I'd suggest starting your research by joining the FCSA and using our members only forum to it's fullest capabilities.

There are three know DTC variations. Only two are commonly used, the EDM variation and the Euro variation.

[newshooter215]

i want to long range custom model and i would like to spend no more then like 5 or 6 grand max. i want performance not just a load boom and i want it to have a 3 to 5 round clip,bipod,the whole thing.

[CSACANNONEER]

Most 50s are not mag fed. A receiver will not be as rigid if there is a large hole in it for a magazine. I've watched a world record 5 shot group set in 38 seconds with a shell holder action where the shooter needed to remove the bolt and R&R each round between shots. Forget about having a mag, it's really pretty useless on a 50.

In your price range, you have several options. My personal favorite is getting an ALS upper and putting it on an AR15 lower. I am far from a great shot yet, I've been able to shoot back to back .5moa groups with mine during a 1000 yard match. I've seen others produce several 3" and 4" groups with their ALS rifles. There are many other manufactures that you should consider as well. Look at Ferret50, Bohica, Serbu, Watson Weapon (I don't like the way it loads and I'm not sure if he'll do a DTC though), EDM is out of your price range, Ultra Mag, Ultra Lite, Noreen, A used AR50 that you can rebarrel&rechamber out of state, A used Steyr50 that you could rebarrel/rechamber out of state, State Arms, etc.

[newshooter215]

if i dished out a little more for the edm would it make a difference because i want the best for the price

[CSACANNONEER]

A friend of mine has an EDM and an ALS. He has shot 4"-5" groups with the ALS. I don't think he has shot qiute that well with his EDM.

[50 Shooter]

Here's a couple other choices for big boomers.

http://www.anzioironworks.com/Anzio-20-50.html

http://www.sskindustries.com/14_5.htm

Yes, they're both CA legal.