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  • evollep3
    Veteran Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 3074

    Mexico Drug Cartel

    What do you see here


    Amazing that they have the 5.7 AR upper already
  • #2
    FNH5-7
    Calguns Addict
    • Sep 2009
    • 9407

    Yes, I see an Ar 5-7, those guy's guys really like the 5.7 cartrige. If you look at pictures from fire fights you'll see a lot of cars with tiny holes, most likely caused by 5.7x28mm bullets.
    Last edited by FNH5-7; 03-21-2010, 12:57 AM.
    Originally posted by FalconLair
    I weep for my country and what it is becoming.

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    • #3
      evollep3
      Veteran Member
      • Sep 2008
      • 3074

      Originally posted by FNH5-7
      Yes, I see an Ar 5-7, those guy's guys really like the 5.7 cartrige. If you look at pictures from fire fights you'll see a lot of cars will tiny holes, most likely 5.7x28mm bullet holes.
      I think they are from AR's they have a crap load of those

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      • #4
        ChrisO
        Veteran Member
        • Apr 2007
        • 4678

        It's hard to get ammo and what not for common military calibers there as it's illegal for citizens to own guns in military chambering hence the popularity of the 38 super over there. Not that these guys follow the law but the 5.7 can be a very effective PDW type weapon.

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        • #5
          professorhard
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2008
          • 2328

          I've seen pics of a bunch of FN P-90s confiscated from the cartels, so they probably got some 5.7 AR uppers to utilize the magazine compatability.
          God, grant me the serenity
          To accept the things I cannot change;
          The courage to change the things I can;
          And the wisdom to know the difference.

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          • #6
            Freagan
            Veteran Member
            • Aug 2008
            • 4564

            Well I know I'd rather have that to play with, than a gold plated AK to hang on the wall
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            • #7
              FNH5-7
              Calguns Addict
              • Sep 2009
              • 9407

              Originally posted by ChrisO
              It's hard to get ammo and what not for common military calibers there as it's illegal for citizens to own guns in military chambering hence the popularity of the 38 super over there. Not that these guys follow the law but the 5.7 can be a very effective PDW type weapon.
              From what I know 38 supers are also illegal, those fall into a gray area. If you're caught with one they only take it away. If you're caught with a 45 or a 7.62x39 you go to jail. 38 special and 380 acp are ok and perfectly legal.
              Last edited by FNH5-7; 03-21-2010, 2:16 AM.
              Originally posted by FalconLair
              I weep for my country and what it is becoming.

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              • #8
                ChrisO
                Veteran Member
                • Apr 2007
                • 4678

                .38 super is indeed legal in mexico. Not 7.62x39 they use 5.56 NATO. There are a couple calibers that are banned there because of milt/police use there.

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                • #9
                  FNH5-7
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 9407

                  Originally posted by ChrisO
                  .38 super is indeed legal in mexico. Not 7.62x39 they use 5.56 NATO. There are a couple calibers that are banned there because of milt/police use there.
                  I'm sorry but 38 super is not "legal" or illegal in Mexico. In their law the legal calibers are listed and the military calibers (the illegal for public to own) are also listed. 38 supers, .357 sig, .357 magnum are in a gray area in which if you're caught with one no big deal they only confiscate it. If you're caught with a 45 you'll do some jail time.
                  Originally posted by FalconLair
                  I weep for my country and what it is becoming.

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                  • #10
                    The Director
                    Veteran Member
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 2769

                    I see an FN FS2000!~

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                    • #11
                      HUTCH 7.62
                      In Memoriam
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 11298

                      Mexican Cartels suck
                      Some say that he once mooned two prostitutes just for a round of drinks, but wasn't surprised by the reply......They call him, the Hutch
                      Some say that he rode a dirtbike 7k miles across the country and that he once applied Bengay to his own testicles for a mere $50............They call him, the Hutch -Top Gear

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                      • #12
                        JDay
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 19393

                        Originally posted by FNH5-7
                        I'm sorry but 38 super is not "legal" or illegal in Mexico. In their law the legal calibers are listed and the military calibers (the illegal for public to own) are also listed. 38 supers, .357 sig, .357 magnum are in a gray area in which if you're caught with one no big deal they only confiscate it. If you're caught with a 45 you'll do some jail time.
                        Wrong, you can buy .38 super ammo and handguns in Mexico. They are indeed legal. This is why there are tons of 1911's chambered for .38 super in Mexico. The ballistics are also superior to .45 acp.
                        Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace. -- James Madison

                        The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)

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                        • #13
                          para38super
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 614

                          Guys I dont think drug cartels care about was legal or not!!! They carry what they think is good. They love the 38 super cause its fast and a great penetrating round same goes for the 5-7. They dont beleive in overpenetration.

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                          • #14
                            FNH5-7
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 9407

                            Originally posted by JDay
                            Wrong, you can buy .38 super ammo and handguns in Mexico. They are indeed legal. This is why there are tons of 1911's chambered for .38 super in Mexico. The ballistics are also superior to .45 acp.
                            Wrong, there's tons of 1911's in Mexico because 38 supers were completely legal before 1976 when the current gun legislation came into effect. They are also imported illegally into the county. Of course you can buy .38 super guns and ammo in Mexico, you can also buy authentic MP5's and FS2000 as well. Why are we even debating over this? drug cartels can get their hands on what ever guns they want and don't give a damn if it's legal or not.
                            Originally posted by FalconLair
                            I weep for my country and what it is becoming.

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                            • #15
                              bigstick61
                              Veteran Member
                              • May 2008
                              • 3211

                              Originally posted by FNH5-7
                              From what I know 38 supers are also illegal, those fall into a gray area. If you're caught with one they only take it away. If you're caught with a 45 or a 7.62x39 you go to jail. 38 special and 380 acp are ok and perfectly legal.
                              .38 Super used to be a legal caliber, but they eventually decided to add it to the banned list; I have a copy of the Mexican gun control legislation, and .38 Super is one of the prohibited calibers. 7.6X39 is NOT banned; it is used by police, but it is not on the list of banned calibers (the military does not use it).

                              This is what is banned:

                              .38 Super

                              .38 Commando (never heard of it)

                              .357 Magnum

                              9mm Luger

                              5.7X28 FN

                              All pistol calibers bigger than 9mm Luger (multiple ways to interpret this; exemption from pistol caliber prohibitions w/ carry permit for those calibers, but the government has rescinded most of those and no longer issues them)

                              5.56X45 NATO

                              7.62X51 NATO

                              7X57 Mauser

                              .30 Carbine

                              .30-06 Springfield

                              6.8X43 SPC

                              Any rifle caliber larger than .30 caliber (there are a few exceptions related to hunting and collecting)

                              Any shotgun caliber larger than 10 guage

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