Model for target.

[xibunkrlilkidsx]

im doing a solid works design class and modeled this for a target i want to build. Right now i have it desighned in 2 pieces, the base, which has the pole, and than the target it self. The head will be on a smpring hinge, so when you shot it it moves, as well as the cut out for a heart shot.

been thinking about making these for sale to so i can make some extra money on the side. or other custom targets.

but what im not sure on how i want to do it is for the base to be secured to the ground, so when a round hits it doesnt fall over. would just plain old san bags be the best route? i can see about making foldable spikes for soft dirt but its not going to help if the ground is hard.

base is. about 24lb and the main body is 42.13lbs = 66lbs
Edit1. change base to triangle


Body same as above. Base is 50.34. with 1/2". and about 28lbs using 1/4" for the base, which sense it isnt being shot at seems more ideal.

total weight with 1/4" base 70lbs


body still same. Base 24.89lbs Total weight 67.02lbs
hard to see but radius is 17.5"

[audihenry]

Make the base of solid metal or tube filled with sand, like those basketball hoops.

[xibunkrlilkidsx]

Make the base of solid metal or tube filled with sand, like those basketball hoops.

right now i have it modeld with 1/2 soilid plate on the bottom.
oh... good thought. im trying to keep it fairly light for long walks out to the 1000yd lines. which is why i thought taking the base out with a small shovel and an empty bag than fill them up when i get out there.

plus what chance would there be of rust forming on the inside of the tubes?

[asgalindez]

Maybe make the base a little wider for more stability. I'd be looking for more "front to back" rather than "side to side" stability.

You could put holes in the base so you could tent-stake it into the ground.

If I used this target out in BLM land I would just put some heavy rocks on the base to keep it from falling over.

Nice design by the way. I offer my services if you need anyone to test them out. Keep us updated.

[IrishPirate]

sand bags are good, you can throw sandbags on top of the base to keep it steady and make the whole thing a little more portable. Also, cut out small holes in the corners of the base for an option to drive stakes through rather than building folding ones on it. in soft dirt they'd have to be pretty long to be effective. this way you can choose different lengths of stakes for your needs. I think it's a great design....i'd buy one if the price were right

[Dirtbiker]

What material are you using?

I'd shutter to think how much the upper section would weight if it was 1/2 inch steel plate (1/2 plate weights 20.42 lbs PSF)

These would be great to sell to private ranges where they can be placed permanently but are easily replaced due to damage.

[xibunkrlilkidsx]

another guy in the class had the thought of amking the base a triangle.

im done wiht the other assignments so i am going to be tinkering with this throughout class. I just used the material as A36 steel for now. ill get a weight here in a minute. once i figured it out, just started doing this.

for some test models im probably going to use what ever i can find in the scrap yard, seeing as i do not have the money to buy brand new nor the space int he garage. And i like the tent stake idea as well.

base is. 20.85lbs and the main body is 42.13lbs

[yelohamr]

Put 2 wheels on it and pull it like a dolly.

[xibunkrlilkidsx]

Put 2 wheels on it and pull it like a dolly.

that woudl work well if i was using it on hard pack. but since most of my shooting is done on BLM land whtih soft sand wheels would make it worse. but it is something i could make if osmeone wanted it.

edit for triangle base see 1st post.

[xxdabroxx]

how are you hinging the head? It looks like you have a piano hinge. Might think of making a concealed hinge like what is found on a car door. A direct hit to the piano hinge may beat it up pretty bad. (i may be seeing wrong too)

what is the hunk of steel connecting the upright to the target? Weld the post to the back, or make it so that one tube slides inside another. Maybe even use a pin to hold together if needed.

Not real fond of the base, i say go with something lighter that can be staked down. 1/2" plate is heavy and expensive.

Maybe use some angle iron for the base.

[xibunkrlilkidsx]

how are you hinging the head? It looks like you have a piano hinge. Might think of making a concealed hinge like what is found on a car door. A direct hit to the piano hinge may beat it up pretty bad. (i may be seeing wrong too)

what is the hunk of steel connecting the upright to the target? Weld the post to the back, or make it so that one tube slides inside another. Maybe even use a pin to hold together if needed.

Not real fond of the base, i say go with something lighter that can be staked down. 1/2" plate is heavy and expensive.

Maybe use some angle iron for the base.

it is going to be concealed on the back side with minimal gap between the body and head to keep a stray round from being able to impact it. i am going to see about getting some from my work, locksmith and we have some old ones lying around, but i need to see how long they will last before giving out. and ill probably make a stop on the back side so the head doesnt flop 180degrees when hit.

the vertical pole may be welded to the base, or make it hinge and use a pin to keep it vertical but remove it for travel. and than it slides into a pocket on the back side of the target.

i tihnk for the triangle one i may bring it down to about 24" when i build it. and i had a thought on angle iron. but not fully there on creating in in solid works so it would take longer.

modeling a half circle base now. its weight is in between. but its not modeled as a tube just a flat plate. again my lack of knowledge of soildworks striesk again.

and i do need ot keep the geometry fairly easy, i dont have a pipe bender or the lieks to im trying to keep in min that i will need to do the base with a chop saw, grinder, and Oxy Acelytlyne so the circle is not ideal right now.

[xxdabroxx]

Your making it harder than it needs be. Maybe a simple "H" of some TS2x4x3/16" for the base? Your going to be wasting a lot of material making the base out of plate.

Keep in mind most places are not going to have perfectly flat ground.

What about a post that you can drive into the ground? Angle cut the end of a piece of TS or an angle. That would only work in softer ground, but something to look into.

I have drawn many things on my fancy computer software only to have my dad call me a retard and show me how to make it less complex. So now i try to think simple when designing stuff. Think of common materials and how much waste you are going to create.

[UBFRAGD]

Pretty cool idea, I'd shoot that......

Here's my staple target for BLM shooting. Base is an H made of 1.5" angle, 4-hole B-Line 90, deep channel (1&5/8" strut, some call it "superstrut"), and a target cut from scraps of 16ga. I take them up to the range disassembled and use a cordless impact driver and 3/8" hardware to assemble it on site. I use a handcart with inflatable wheels to distribute them throughout the range. In 20-30 minutes I can have four or five zombies at various ranges for fun shooting.

[Jonathan Doe]

I shoot what I can find.

[xibunkrlilkidsx]

I shoot what I can find.

lol. had one of thoose outta there as well. someone dumped it where we shot.



and this is why i brought this out to the masses. ideas. someone is going to think of something i didnt. its going to be an evolving idea for a while. as i find different things are going to work better than others. the spike base wouldnt be bad for the area i shot at in the desert, it has pretty soft sand.

and yes i do tend to make things more complicated early on.