Home defense in Mexico.

[famas619]

Everytime i see the news of innocent people getting killed by misake in mexico it makes me wonder when mexico is going to let its citizens defend themselves. Only police and criminals have guns in mexico. Im glad i live here in the states. They allow .380 and 38 special in mexico, but theres so much red tape to get that. What's your opinion?

[grammaton76]

My opinion is that I'd really like to see some folks with experience in Mexico toss in some input. No idea what the use of force doctrine is down there (duty to retreat?).

And I imagine even if you kill a gang banger breaking into your place, you're going to be executed to set an example...

[HK-DEMON-]

My opinion is that I'd really like to see some folks with experience in Mexico toss in some input. No idea what the use of force doctrine is down there (duty to retreat?).

And I imagine even if you kill a gang banger breaking into your place, you're going to be executed to set an example...

that is so true.

[Nynvolt]

They can also have .22 rifles.

The Mexican government is quite corrupt, if the citizens were armed there would be a better chance for a meaningful revolution. I doubt Mexican citizens will ever be able to legally own guns in a way similar to the U.S.

[Dekker]

I just remember seeing the Mexican cops roll out in their trucks using Shotguns and G3's. As much as I hate the corruption, I'd feel so warm and tingly inside if I'd enter a restaurant and see American cops eating their lunch with their assault rifles leaning on the wall or patrolling the streets with a 12 Gauge.

[paul0660]

Mexican cops are corrupt, but also for sale for not much..........anyway, many many people in baja keep firearms for home defense. Down there, it is carried by six, judged by twelve, and que lastima (what a shame) for 500.

[famas619]

I was down in mexico in Nov. of last year (visiting wives fam.) I saw a federal police officer with a g-36. I wanted to take a pic, but didnt want to be accused of being a spy or something. Paul0660 your right on the carried by six.

[Elsinore]

I used to work in Mexico for about a year. I was surprised that almost everybody at this company owned a gun. They had toys we could only dream about.

[strangerdude]

Everytime i see the news of innocent people getting killed by misake in mexico it makes me wonder when mexico is going to let its citizens defend themselves. Only police and criminals have guns in mexico. Im glad i live here in the states. They allow .380 and 38 special in mexico, but theres so much red tape to get that. What's your opinion?

I lived in MX for three years, and let me tell you. Everyone is packing over there, ammo is difficult to come by but when you find a source you buy in bulk which is way cheap over there. The federales have been conducting searches for illegally owned firearms, most people are aware and have them hidden. In 2004 they searched my grandmothers house and took a smith and wesson .357 revolver that I'm sure was from before the 50's and a 30/30 lever action. Good thing my dad hid the rest on his last visit.

[sindominator]

Yeah it really sucks for them. If they happen to shoot a cowardly criminal in self-defense. They go to jail for owning an illegal fire arm. The criminal with connections to the cartel walks because of his connections.

But yes you'll be surprise how many people own all types of guns down there. Which goes to show, no matter how strick anti gun laws they'll never work.

We cry about ammo prices? the mark up prices for ammo down there usually rises 400%-600% and good luck finding battle packs or ammo cans. Their biggest caliber is .38super which is why you have hard time finding it in stock A.K.A. .38Mexican. There are songs, stories, legends about that caliber.

Though I don't agree with the ethnics of black water, but I believe there should be a universal/global, Task Force/SWAT. Created for scenarios like this across the world. So that it is not part of a corrupted cancer infested system.

I think the Mex goverment, prohibits guns not for the safety of their people, but for their own safety. Guys ever read about:

- Pancho Villa
- Emiliano Zapata
- Sub Commandate Marcos of the E.Z.L.N.
- Of course Che Guevara

Now I don't want to switch this thread to communist/democratic point of view. But theese are man that stood up for something, and had the guts to call out something that wasn't right or equal to them and their followers. Many of us talk crime but are afraid of jail. We complain about so much crap while lounging in the comfort of our homes and closes allies.

So lets stay in topic "Poor Mex citizens, they are terrorised by criminals and very same system sworn to protect them"

[forgiven]

I used to work in Mexico for about a year. I was surprised that almost everybody at this company owned a gun. They had toys we could only dream about.

Yes, they hide them very well.

[corrupt]

Interesting thread.

[sd1023x]

You have to get a permit or something and can't own military caliber firearms. They have weird calibers like .222 and colt .38 supers are really popular down there. Their new FX service rifle is military only and is an attempt at inventory control. (the FX is ONLY for mexi military)




Kinda off topic but great thread over at mil photos.

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?156820-Weapons-seized-from-Drug-Cartels-by-Mexico-s-Military-LE-%28updates%29

[bigstick61]

My uncle in Guadalajara is an avid hunter and owns the maximum amount of guns you can own in Mexico, including some nice stuff. He also has a carry permit (he is a doctor and knows people). He used to have one to carry handguns in prohibited calibers (which allows you to own a pistol in a prohibited caliber, which means .45 ACP, 9mm Luger, .38 Super, .38 Commando, .357 Magnum, and 5.7mm FN, as well as anything bigger than 9mm), but the government revoked all of them and downgraded them to the standard one. My uncle in the Mexican Army also owns guns and has a carry permit (he also knows someone in the MoD who might hook me and my father up with carry permits for foreigners should we go down there for an extended stay). It is possible to own guns and carry them, but it is not the easiest thing, and the latter can be quite difficult in most jurisdictions (although ultimately it is up to the MoD who owns guns and gets permits). Getting new guns is a PITA because there is only one gun store in the country, and ammo is also hard to get and is expensive compared to the U.S.

[FNH5-7]

whats that stuff in the center? is that tear gas?

There seems to not be a gun rights group in Mexico that could push for new laws and clear rules. The calibers you can own are written down in the law, stuff like .357 sig .357 magnum is in the gray area.