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Unless it's C&R, or intrafamilial, all transfers MUST go through an FFL - true since 1991.
And long guns are not registered - weapon info is not sent to the state on a sale/transfer.ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page
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Good to know, that second part was confusing me, led me to think I didn't need to dros...NO.
Unless it's C&R, or intrafamilial, all transfers MUST go through an FFL - true since 1991.
And long guns are not registered - weapon info is not sent to the state on a sale/transfer.
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There's no exception that lets you mail in the paper work along with $19 for the dros after the fact?
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with regards to long guns, DROS does not equal registration, but it is still required that you DROS it, with certain exceptions.
nope.Jack
Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?
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Since this story contradicts the story stated in your original post, and you've already published it on a very busy internet forum, which is very likely monitored by law enforcement and CA DoJ, what you just suggested would be illegal (prohibiting misdemeanor - you and the seller lose the right to own firearms for 10 years), if you chose to act on it. Is it worth it to save $35?
Unless the shotgun you are buying was manufactured prior to 1959 (C&R 50 year rule), then it has to go through the same DROS process, the same as any new firearm.Last edited by bigthaiboy; 01-28-2010, 11:55 PM.
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Sending in the Vol. Reg. form doesn't erase the criminal act of transferring a firearm in violation of CPC 12072(d). It would just mean that you have registered your illegally transfered long gun with CalDOJ, even though long guns don't require registration.Originally posted by stillwater562I have done it before on a long gun only, I don't think I would on a hand gun, its a vol. reg. form you send in with a check for $19, i got back a statement saying its now in my name and I called them to ask and after 30 min on the phone they said it was logged in and the date it was transfered and its now in my name so I guess it does work.__________________
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Originally Posted by stillwater562
I have done it before on a long gun only, I don't think I would on a hand gun, its a vol. reg. form you send in with a check for $19, i got back a statement saying its now in my name and I called them to ask and after 30 min on the phone they said it was logged in and the date it was transfered and its now in my name so I guess it does work.Yep. CA DoJ are probably watching your house right now, since you've paid $19 to tell them where you live.Sending in the Vol. Reg. form doesn't erase the criminal act of transferring a firearm in violation of CPC 12072(d). It would just mean that you have registered your illegally transfered long gun with CalDOJ, even though long guns don't require registration.
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No, and it's a $35 transfer.... $25 to the state and no more than $10 to the FFL.
You're confusing PPT with intrafamilial transfers, which are not done through an FFL and are only $19 (for as many guns as you can fit on the OpLaw form).
DROS is "Dealer Record Of Sale", and is not completed by individuals.
Unless the shotgun is a 50 year old C&R, a cash-and-carry transfer is a misdemeanor... but worse, it's a prohibiting misdemeanor... 10 years with no guns upon conviction!
This is the 2nd "retired cop" that someone has posted about on the forum this evening who felt he could cash and carry. The other was a retired cop telling someone that he could cash and carry a 5 year old handgun!- Rich

Originally posted by dantoddA just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.Comment
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Maybe they aren't really retired yet but still fishingNo, and it's a $35 transfer.... $25 to the state and no more than $10 to the FFL.
You're confusing PPT with intrafamilial transfers, which are not done through an FFL and are only $19 (for as many guns as you can fit on the OpLaw form).
DROS is "Dealer Record Of Sale", and is not completed by individuals.
Unless the shotgun is a 50 year old C&R, a cash-and-carry transfer is a misdemeanor... but worse, it's a prohibiting misdemeanor... 10 years with no guns upon conviction!
This is the 2nd "retired cop" that someone has posted about on the forum this evening who felt he could cash and carry. The other was a retired cop telling someone that he could cash and carry a 5 year old handgun!
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