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  • toopercentmlk
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2008
    • 1244

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    Last edited by toopercentmlk; 12-01-2010, 12:25 AM.
  • #2
    Librarian
    Admin and Poltergeist
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Oct 2005
    • 44637

    NO.

    Unless it's C&R, or intrafamilial, all transfers MUST go through an FFL - true since 1991.

    And long guns are not registered - weapon info is not sent to the state on a sale/transfer.
    ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

    Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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    • #3
      toopercentmlk
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2008
      • 1244

      Originally posted by Librarian
      NO.

      Unless it's C&R, or intrafamilial, all transfers MUST go through an FFL - true since 1991.

      And long guns are not registered - weapon info is not sent to the state on a sale/transfer.
      Good to know, that second part was confusing me, led me to think I didn't need to dros...
      Last edited by toopercentmlk; 12-01-2010, 12:24 AM. Reason: fixed

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      • #4
        toopercentmlk
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2008
        • 1244

        There's no exception that lets you mail in the paper work along with $19 for the dros after the fact?

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        • #5
          ke6guj
          Moderator
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Nov 2003
          • 23725

          Originally posted by toopercentmlk
          Good to know, that second part was confusing me, led me to think I didn't need to dros... Thanks Librarian,
          with regards to long guns, DROS does not equal registration, but it is still required that you DROS it, with certain exceptions.

          Originally posted by toopercentmlk
          There's no exception that lets you mail in the paper work along with $19 for the dros after the fact?
          nope.
          Jack



          Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

          No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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          • #6
            bigthaiboy
            Veteran Member
            • Apr 2007
            • 4795

            Originally posted by toopercentmlk
            Good to know, that second part was confusing me, led me to think I didn't need to dros... Thanks Librarian, but what if he sold the gun to my father back in 1990!
            Since this story contradicts the story stated in your original post, and you've already published it on a very busy internet forum, which is very likely monitored by law enforcement and CA DoJ, what you just suggested would be illegal (prohibiting misdemeanor - you and the seller lose the right to own firearms for 10 years), if you chose to act on it. Is it worth it to save $35?

            Unless the shotgun you are buying was manufactured prior to 1959 (C&R 50 year rule), then it has to go through the same DROS process, the same as any new firearm.
            Last edited by bigthaiboy; 01-28-2010, 11:55 PM.

            Life can make you do many things, even kiss a man with a runny nose.

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            • #7
              Mssr. Eleganté
              Blue Blaze Irregular
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Oct 2005
              • 10401

              Originally posted by stillwater562
              I have done it before on a long gun only, I don't think I would on a hand gun, its a vol. reg. form you send in with a check for $19, i got back a statement saying its now in my name and I called them to ask and after 30 min on the phone they said it was logged in and the date it was transfered and its now in my name so I guess it does work.
              Sending in the Vol. Reg. form doesn't erase the criminal act of transferring a firearm in violation of CPC 12072(d). It would just mean that you have registered your illegally transfered long gun with CalDOJ, even though long guns don't require registration.
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              • #8
                bigthaiboy
                Veteran Member
                • Apr 2007
                • 4795

                Originally Posted by stillwater562
                I have done it before on a long gun only, I don't think I would on a hand gun, its a vol. reg. form you send in with a check for $19, i got back a statement saying its now in my name and I called them to ask and after 30 min on the phone they said it was logged in and the date it was transfered and its now in my name so I guess it does work.
                Sending in the Vol. Reg. form doesn't erase the criminal act of transferring a firearm in violation of CPC 12072(d). It would just mean that you have registered your illegally transfered long gun with CalDOJ, even though long guns don't require registration.
                Yep. CA DoJ are probably watching your house right now, since you've paid $19 to tell them where you live.

                Life can make you do many things, even kiss a man with a runny nose.

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                • #9
                  seanbo
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 1161

                  KIll the lights!!!!! HIt the Floor!!! RUN!!!!!!!

                  Just do the right thing and no one gets shot.

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                  • #10
                    Deadbolt
                    CGSSA Associate
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 6552

                    bros what if i stenciled peace signs on it
                    Just another Boy and His Dog.

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                    • #11
                      Cokebottle
                      Seņor Member
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 32373

                      Originally posted by toopercentmlk
                      There's no exception that lets you mail in the paper work along with $19 for the dros after the fact?
                      No, and it's a $35 transfer.... $25 to the state and no more than $10 to the FFL.

                      You're confusing PPT with intrafamilial transfers, which are not done through an FFL and are only $19 (for as many guns as you can fit on the OpLaw form).
                      DROS is "Dealer Record Of Sale", and is not completed by individuals.

                      Unless the shotgun is a 50 year old C&R, a cash-and-carry transfer is a misdemeanor... but worse, it's a prohibiting misdemeanor... 10 years with no guns upon conviction!

                      This is the 2nd "retired cop" that someone has posted about on the forum this evening who felt he could cash and carry. The other was a retired cop telling someone that he could cash and carry a 5 year old handgun!
                      - Rich

                      Originally posted by dantodd
                      A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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                      • #12
                        halifax
                        Veteran Member
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 4440

                        Originally posted by Cokebottle
                        No, and it's a $35 transfer.... $25 to the state and no more than $10 to the FFL.

                        You're confusing PPT with intrafamilial transfers, which are not done through an FFL and are only $19 (for as many guns as you can fit on the OpLaw form).
                        DROS is "Dealer Record Of Sale", and is not completed by individuals.

                        Unless the shotgun is a 50 year old C&R, a cash-and-carry transfer is a misdemeanor... but worse, it's a prohibiting misdemeanor... 10 years with no guns upon conviction!

                        This is the 2nd "retired cop" that someone has posted about on the forum this evening who felt he could cash and carry. The other was a retired cop telling someone that he could cash and carry a 5 year old handgun!
                        Maybe they aren't really retired yet but still fishing
                        Jim


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                        • #13
                          Rob454
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                          • Feb 2006
                          • 11254

                          just go pay the 35$ and DROS the gun legally. its obvious the gun is not a C&R status. just because the seller is a cop does not mean he knows the whole intricacy of law.
                          just means he is a cop

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