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  • Mad Scotsman
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2010
    • 527

    PPT vs. FFL-dealer?

    New guy, asking what is PPT and how is it different than going into the gun shop and buying a firearm?
    No DROS?
    No 10 day gun jail?
    I give you money, you give me gun? That doesn't seem like Kalifornia.
    Trying to learn and not get taken, Thanks.
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  • #2
    Quiet
    retired Goon
    • Mar 2007
    • 30242

    A 4473/DROS and 10 day wait are involved in both.

    Only difference is...

    Buy handgun from a FFL dealer, then handgun needs to be on the approved list.

    Buy handgun via PPT, then handgun is exempt from the approved list.
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    "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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    • #3
      seanbo
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2009
      • 1161

      PPT = NO TAX

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      • #4
        seanbo
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2009
        • 1161

        Also no 10 day wait/dros on 50 year+ non handguns

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        • #5
          Cokebottle
          Seņor Member
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Oct 2009
          • 32373

          And financially...

          PPT = $35 ($25 DROS plus $10 max FFL fee).
          Shipped to FFL from out of area = $25 DROS + whatever the FFL wants to charge for the transfer fee.


          Also, PPT = No "one handgun every 30 days" rule. Purchase from dealer stock, you can only buy one every 30.
          - Rich

          Originally posted by dantodd
          A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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          • #6
            team1320
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2009
            • 883

            Good info here. Can someone remind me what FFL means again? I forgot and I can't find the thread that explains all the abbrevasions.
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            • #7
              Cokebottle
              Seņor Member
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Oct 2009
              • 32373

              Originally posted by team1320
              Good info here. Can someone remind me what FFL means again? I forgot and I can't find the thread that explains all the abbrevasions.
              Federal Firearms License/Licensee

              Type 1 - Title 1 dealer or gunsmith other than destructive devices. Can also deal in Title II NFA firearms with class 3 tax stamp.
              Type 2 - Title 1 dealer doing business as a pawnbroker
              Type 3 - Licensed collector of Curio & Relic (C&R) firearms
              Type 6 - Licensed manufacturer of ammunition and reloading components other than Armor Piercing ammunition
              Type 7 - Title 1 manufacturer of firearms, who can also act as dealer, other than Destructive Devices, ammunition and ammunition components other than Armor Piercing ammunition. Can also manufacturer & deal in Title II NFA firearms with class 2 tax stamp.
              Type 8 - Importer of Title 1 firearms and ammunition. Can also import Title II NFA firearms with class 1 tax stamp.
              Type 9 - Dealer in Title 1 firearms including NFA destructive devices, Requires payment as an SOT Class 1 (can act as an NFA Dealer) and registration with the US Dept. of State as a Broker under ITAR/D-TRADE. To deal/broker any DD with an explosives content (i.e. Flash-Bangs), requires an additional FFL; Dealer of High Explosives
              Type 10 - Manufacturer of Title 1 firearms, ammunition and ammunition components, manufacturer of NFA Destructive Devices, ammunition for Destructive Devices and Armor Piercing ammunition (can act as a dealer). Requires payment as an SOT Class 2 (can act as an NFA Dealer) and registration with the US Dept. of State as a Manufacturer under ITAR/D-TRADE. To manufacture any DD with an explosives content (i.e. Flash-Bangs), requires an additional FFL; Type 20 Manufacturer of High Explosives.
              Type 11 - Importer of Title 1 firearms, ammunition and NFA Destructive Devices, ammunition for Destructive Devices and Armor Piercing ammunition. Requires payment as an SOT Class 1 and registration with the US Dept. of State as a Broker under ITAR/D-TRADE. To import any DD with an explosives content (i.e. Flash-Bangs), requires an additional FFL; Importer of High Explosives.
              Last edited by Cokebottle; 01-24-2010, 3:57 PM.
              - Rich

              Originally posted by dantodd
              A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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