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Why are CA FFL transfer fees higher then nationwide average?

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  • #16
    PIRATE14
    Veteran Member
    • Dec 2005
    • 3189

    Well most FFLs w/ B&M stores in El Paso charge about 30-50 bux per xfer.....so our CA XFER fees aren't much higher but tack on a extra 25 for the state....

    Now....CA STATE paper is about 4 times more than that of TEXAS per transaction on handguns....so, 50 bux is a pretty good deal.....for a B&M place...

    Obviously....guys that work out of the house can be less....
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    • #17
      for2nato
      Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 446

      Originally posted by shark92651
      Nothing is "free". There is a significant amount of time and paperwork involved and the FFL deserves a fair price for the transaction. We charge $50 and we feel it is a fair price. I have a safe with limited capacity and the more room taken up by a firearm I did not sell to someone could be used to hold a firearm I did sell to someone. Also, there are more regulations and requirements to do a transaction in CA. You have the CFLC to deal with for one, checking roster and AW status of a firearm, dealing with the HSC test and safety demonstration, etc... All of these requirements have costs attached to them so you really should reconsider the "it cost nothing to keep a gun in a safe" comment. How valuable is your time? If you went to a mechanic and he spent 30-45 minutes working on your car and had to submit paperwork to the state, store your car on his lot for a week, etc... would you feel that $50 was excessive? It's just an example but I hope you see my point.
      i know nothing is for free. and i also understand the hoops that are imposed onto cal ffl's. but if your safe isnt big enough then you need a bigger safe. thats the cost of doing business. it takes you 2 minutes to check the roster. and the paper work is the same no matter where the transfer comes from. but look bottom line is that its your business and you need to charge appropriately in order to stay in business. so if $50 is what you need then so be it. i personally dont think $50 is excessive and had the prices been like that around my area. i may have purchased more guns online.

      "Could that be because the markup to cover the costs for all the extra BS CA dealers need to go through is included in the price?"

      no doubt that there is alot of bs involved in selling guns in cali. but to sell guns above the msrp. and then charge 100% more on average than other dealers around the country for transfers. unless a maker is producing a california specific model. the wholesale cost is the same in cali as it is in utah. so why do the local stores in the central valley charge $649 for a glock. when the msrp is $599. and most transfer fees are around $80 there. that is capitalism. taking advantage of a supply and demand situation to make more money.
      Last edited by for2nato; 01-06-2010, 6:40 PM.
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      • #18
        ETD1010
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2006
        • 1298

        Originally posted by shark92651
        Nothing is "free". There is a significant amount of time and paperwork involved and the FFL deserves a fair price for the transaction. We charge $50 and we feel it is a fair price. I have a safe with limited capacity and the more room taken up by a firearm I did not sell to someone could be used to hold a firearm I did sell to someone. Also, there are more regulations and requirements to do a transaction in CA. You have the CFLC to deal with for one, checking roster and AW status of a firearm, dealing with the HSC test and safety demonstration, etc... All of these requirements have costs attached to them so you really should reconsider the "it cost nothing to keep a gun in a safe" comment. How valuable is your time? If you went to a mechanic and he spent 30-45 minutes working on your car and had to submit paperwork to the state, store your car on his lot for a week, etc... would you feel that $50 was excessive? It's just an example but I hope you see my point.
        That's pretty much it I think. Our overhead is higher in CA due to the extra permits, DOJ crap, RENT for square footage, the 10 day wait. it all adds up.

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