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  • FailedAngrMgmt
    Member
    • Jan 2010
    • 321

    new Glock 22 w/TLR-1 issues

    Hi,

    I bought a new Glock 22 about a month ago, have shot about 450 rounds through it so far. And im getting FTF problems, more then I feel comfortable with carrying it as a duty weapon. I have a new Streamlight TLR-1 installed. All the mags are brand new factory mags. I had very high hopes for Glock to be my duty weapon, thousands of departments around the world use this gun.

    For example, today, I went shooting at the range for the sole purpose of testing out the reliability of the gun because i dont know if i trust it yet, I already know its accurate and very easy to shoot, I just wanted to see if it would jam. I shot 200 rounds of Federal American Eagle ammo, had 3 FTF. The gun ejects the spend casing, but completely failed to insert a new round into the breach all 3 times. The slide looks like its locked back as if I have fired the last round out of the mag, but I'm pretty sure its resting on the round caught between the breach and the slide.

    Last week I had to qualify at my departments range so I can carry the weapon on duty, It was a 50 round course. I was shooting Winchester range FMJs. In the middle of the qualification, I had a round jam going into the breach, I think it might have been a double feed, I didn't have much time to study it as I was in the middle of a cycle where the target flips to the side. I went to tap and rack to clear the round, and it wouldn't eject, I racked about 3 more times and it was stuck, I then released the mag and turned the gun so the magwell was pointing up and started racking again and it fell out, it was a unfired bullet, not a empty casing. Loaded a new mag and continued. Luckily I was able to do it and still fire within the allotted time so i was not disqualified and have to start over again. This qualification was the first time shooting with the tac light on the gun.

    Any advice would be appreciated, I'm close to just throwing in the towel and going to buy a different gun. I know the tac light may be the issue, but to me that is unacceptable. The gun has a light rail, I should be able to use it and not have any second guesses in the back of my mind when I carry it on duty. Thanks.
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  • #2
    Diabolus
    Veteran Member
    • Mar 2006
    • 4732

    I've read a lot of issues with flashlights mounted on G22s. I just purchased one myself, but I dont use weapon mounted lights on my pistols. Have you considered going to a 9mm instead?

    Not sure what your department allows.

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    • #3
      Swatguy10_15
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2009
      • 611

      Why are you buying your duty weapon?
      Embrace the suck.

      "If anything worthwhile comes of this tragedy, it should be the realization by every citizen that often the only thing that stands between them and losing everything they hold dear... is the man wearing a badge" -Ronald Reagan speaking of the newhall incident in 1970.

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      • #4
        SJgunguy24
        I need a LIFE!!
        • May 2008
        • 14849

        This is an issue that is well documented, from Streamlights website.

        Answers to questions about Streamlight's products and services and important information about batteries and charges for flashlight products.
        There are 3 kinds of people in this world.
        The wise, learn from the mistakes of others.
        The smart, learn from their own mistakes.
        The others, well......they just never learn.

        "Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, Give Me Liberty, Or Give Me Death!"
        Patrick Henry.

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        • #5
          Crazed_SS
          Veteran Member
          • Dec 2005
          • 4114

          Originally posted by FailedAngrMgmt
          Any advice would be appreciated, I'm close to just throwing in the towel and going to buy a different gun. I know the tac light may be the issue, but to me that is unacceptable. The gun has a light rail, I should be able to use it and not have any second guesses in the back of my mind when I carry it on duty. Thanks.
          You might have to try a different gun. I have a Sig P220 and a SA MC Operator 1911 with TLR products hanging off them and they work 100%.

          EDIT: I just called my buddy who is a SD Sherriff Deputy. They are issued G22's and TLR-1s and that is their only authorized carry piece. He says this is a known issue and Glock has a fix for it. They get mags that have 11 coils vice 10 and that fixes the problem. He says he hasnt had any reliability issues with his gun and those magazines.. Maybe you can look into finding these new-fangled mags he's referring to..
          Last edited by Crazed_SS; 01-05-2010, 8:08 PM.
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          • #6
            Echidin
            Veteran Member
            • Sep 2008
            • 3074

            Originally posted by Diabolus
            I've read a lot of issues with flashlights mounted on G22s. I just purchased one myself, but I dont use weapon mounted lights on my pistols. Have you considered going to a 9mm instead?

            Not sure what your department allows.

            Does the 22 have these problems with the GTL as well?

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            • #7
              SJgunguy24
              I need a LIFE!!
              • May 2008
              • 14849

              Anybody see my post? This was figured out by Glock and Streamlight already.
              There are 3 kinds of people in this world.
              The wise, learn from the mistakes of others.
              The smart, learn from their own mistakes.
              The others, well......they just never learn.

              "Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, Give Me Liberty, Or Give Me Death!"
              Patrick Henry.

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              • #8
                Echidin
                Veteran Member
                • Sep 2008
                • 3074

                Yes

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                • #9
                  SVT-40
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 12912

                  My dept experienced some of the same issues with our Glock 22's. We furnish each officer with a tac light and appropriate duty holster. Due to the problems with a few pistols Glock replaced ALL of the Mag springs in ALL of our dept's magazines..

                  It took me around two weeks to get all the springs replaced. Needless to say I was VERY tired of breaking down and reassembling magazines before the ordeal was over.

                  The replacement springs fixed the issue with the few pistols which were having issues.
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                  • #10
                    mala in se
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 619

                    i've got the same set-up and had no ftf issues after 150 rounds

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                    • #11
                      savasyn
                      Veteran Member
                      • Aug 2007
                      • 3201

                      I had that exact problem with a G23. I sold it and got a G22 and have had zero issues with the new gun. I have a few extra power mag springs on hand just in case it develops the problem down the road though.

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                      • #12
                        SCMA-1
                        Veteran Member
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 4294

                        That's what I thought; it has nothing to do with the weapons light. I carry one of my G22's and always practice with my TLR-1 attached but have never had an issue. I've replaced a few mags springs in some of my Glock mags because they felt weak; it makes sense that would be the problem based on the symptoms.
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