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  • prebans
    Member
    • Jul 2006
    • 179

    WTK: California and legal definitions of a shotgun

    How does California define a shotgun? Does the state mirror the federal definition or does it have its own definition?

    In addition, does it treat pistol-grip-only shotguns any differently than shotguns that have a buttstock?

    I need to check up on another possibility for nifty things to offer to CA residents.

    Thank you,

    Mike
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    50 Shooter
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2005
    • 1653

    18" barrel and OAL of 26"

    For semi's if it has two evil features, such as folding stock & pistol grip or detachable mag. then it's a no go.
    50 BMG Shooters http://50-bmg.com/forum/index.php

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    • #3
      ViPER395
      Calguns Addict
      • Feb 2007
      • 7848

      And I think "drum" type mags are illegal.
      Originally posted by Rainbow Warrior
      Liberals didn't invent douchebaggery but they certainly perfected it.

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      • #4
        CalNRA
        Calguns Addict
        • Apr 2006
        • 8686

        (5) A semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that has the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.

        (6) A semiautomatic shotgun that has both of the following:

        (A) A folding or telescoping stock.

        (B) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon, thumbhole stock, or vertical handgrip.

        (7) A semiautomatic shotgun that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine.

        (8) Any shotgun with a revolving cylinder.
        Last edited by CalNRA; 02-13-2007, 2:58 PM.
        Originally posted by cvigue
        This is not rocket surgery.

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        • #5
          HandCannon
          Banned
          • Feb 2007
          • 38

          Originally posted by ViPER395
          And I think "drum" type mags are illegal.
          Wrong; that is not true. But, you can't have a detachable magazine on a semi-auto shotgun, whether it is a drum or standard magazine.

          If it is pump action, you can have detachable magazines, drum or otherwise.

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          • #6
            ViPER395
            Calguns Addict
            • Feb 2007
            • 7848

            Originally posted by CalNRA
            (8) Any shotgun with a revolving cylinder.
            Originally posted by HandCannon
            Wrong; that is not true. But, you can't have a detachable magazine on a semi-auto shotgun, whether it is a drum or standard magazine.

            If it is pump action, you can have detachable magazines, drum or otherwise.
            ....
            Originally posted by Rainbow Warrior
            Liberals didn't invent douchebaggery but they certainly perfected it.

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            • #7
              CalNRA
              Calguns Addict
              • Apr 2006
              • 8686

              Originally posted by ViPER395
              ....
              I think drum is different from revolving cylinder.

              drum like in a Thompsons magazine or a drum ak mag, revolving cylinder is like that of a revolver

              I could be wrong though
              Last edited by CalNRA; 02-13-2007, 3:15 PM.
              Originally posted by cvigue
              This is not rocket surgery.

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              • #8
                ViPER395
                Calguns Addict
                • Feb 2007
                • 7848

                Originally posted by CalNRA
                I think drum is different from revolving cylinder.

                drum like in a Thompsons magazine or a drum ak mag, revolving cylinder is like that of a revolver

                I could be wrong though
                Wow. I've never even heard of a "revolver" type shotgun. That would be cool.
                Originally posted by Rainbow Warrior
                Liberals didn't invent douchebaggery but they certainly perfected it.

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                • #9
                  blkA4alb
                  Moderator Emeritus
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Feb 2006
                  • 3576

                  Originally posted by ViPER395
                  Wow. I've never even heard of a "revolver" type shotgun. That would be cool.
                  I believe they made that law because of the Striker (Street Sweeper) shotguns where the drum actually revolves. Though the Street Sweepers were banned on RR89.
                  Please, calm down.

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                  • #10
                    blkA4alb
                    Moderator Emeritus
                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Feb 2006
                    • 3576

                    Double post...
                    Please, calm down.

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                    • #11
                      CalNRA
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Apr 2006
                      • 8686

                      wasn't the infamous "street sweeper" the reason why the "revolving cylinder" section was added?

                      edit, someone beat me to it.
                      Originally posted by cvigue
                      This is not rocket surgery.

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                      • #12
                        megavolt121
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2006
                        • 1552

                        Originally posted by prebans
                        How does California define a shotgun? Does the state mirror the federal definition or does it have its own definition?

                        In addition, does it treat pistol-grip-only shotguns any differently than shotguns that have a buttstock?

                        I need to check up on another possibility for nifty things to offer to CA residents.

                        Thank you,

                        Mike

                        I don't think Mike is asking about the SB23 or whatever evil features.. I'm curious now, what defines a gun as a shotgun? Just like we have centerfire rifle.. what defines such as a rifle vs. a shotgun vs. tripod mounted(ie 1919)

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                        • #13
                          CalNRA
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Apr 2006
                          • 8686

                          oops
                          Last edited by CalNRA; 02-13-2007, 3:35 PM.
                          Originally posted by cvigue
                          This is not rocket surgery.

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                          • #14
                            prebans
                            Member
                            • Jul 2006
                            • 179

                            Originally posted by megavolt121
                            I don't think Mike is asking about the SB23 or whatever evil features.. I'm curious now, what defines a gun as a shotgun? Just like we have centerfire rifle.. what defines such as a rifle vs. a shotgun vs. tripod mounted(ie 1919)
                            Yup.

                            I'm trying to figure out if CA law defines shotguns the same way as federal law.

                            Thank you,

                            Mike <-- still trying to figure out a way to offer NFA items to CA residents

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                            • #15
                              Socal858
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2006
                              • 2177

                              sooo whens someone going to make a top loading pinned mag shotgun?

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