Springfield M1A - no papers ... can I do a PPT?

[Tulisan]

I have a Springfield M1A that I acquired when my dad passed away, 5 years ago. The rifle was in his safe. There were no papers with the gun and no clue as to how my dad came to have the firearm. I have no use for it and was thinking of selling it through PPT. Would I be able to to do a PPT to the springfield M1A sell it or trade? I will be the seller and want to legally xfer the rifle to a private party. Thanks in advance for any suggestions you can give.

[professorhard]

Can't believe you would want to sell it considering the circumstances but just make sure it's featureless...no flash hider which it might have ect. and then you can ppt it since he intrafamilial transfered it to you. Long guns are not registered...as long as it is not a registered assault weapon.

[GJC]

Why?????? would You want to get rid of it

[Vinz]

Can't believe you would want to sell it considering the circumstances but just make sure it's featureless...no flash hider which it might have ect. and then you can ppt it since he intrafamilial transfered it to you. Long guns are not registered...as long as it is not a registered assault weapon.

plus it would have to have the serial number run to make sure it wasn't reported stolen.



vinz

[Mssr. Eleganté]

It can't be stressed enough that you need to make sure the rifle isn't in "assault weapon" configuration right now. As the "gun guy" at work, people are always asking me what to do about guns that they inherit from their parents or friends. Every single one of the M1A's that I've heard about this way have been a unregistered assault weapons because they still had the flash hiders.

[Guns R Tools]

Yeah many M1A owners who bought it before the ban doesn't know that flash hider is illegal now.

They say "It came like that from factory, I bought it like that. etc."

Make sure FH is removed.

You can buy Muzzle brake as replacement. There is Springfield Armory MB or other makers.

http://www.springfield-armory.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=161&zenid=1a8792d07232046013473d1c825690d2

http://www.smithenterprise.com/products07.html

[swerv512]

^^^
+1... i see people all the time at the range with M1As with FHs still attached...

[berg]

^^^
+1... i see people all the time at the range with M1As with FHs still attached...

Flash hiders are fine on M1A's as long as they were registered. So the rifles you saw may have simply been registered. Many thousands of M1As were possessed before 2000 in California.

[odysseus]

Flash hiders are fine on M1A's as long as they were registered. So the rifles you saw may have simply been registered. Many thousands of M1As were possessed before 2000 in California.

You got to be careful with that. "Registered" meaning California Assault Weapon Registration which expired in 2000. Many people did not do that for m1a's with flash hiders back in 2000, because they simply never HEARD of the ban on the this feature thus requiring a AW registration, which was not really advertised and understood by average people living their normal lives, and often confuse registration with other simple gun purchase procedures.

[roadwarrior1971]

I see jailed people

[Asphodel]

One has to be seriously careful, these days, about any rifle which may have any technically 'illegal' characteristics, and is offered for sale/trade.

Yes, its quite possible that the prospective seller may have no idea that a previously legal rifle is now illegal, due to some detail.

Sometimes, tho, the prospective seller may be a very different situation.

I ran into a variety of this a few years ago. Whilst working as a rangemaster, I get into conversations about guns with quite a few people. One person whom I'd had a few casual conversations mentioned that he had 'a friend' who had a 'M1 carbine' that he wanted to sell cheaply......rather suspiciously cheaply, in fact.

So.....a few days later, I met with this 'friend'.......and I was just a bit 'paranoid', as the story seemed a bit 'too good to be true' (something about 'I'll sell it cheap cos I just need to get rid of it......a previous tenant left the gun along with other stuff when he moved, and my wife doesn't want to have a gun in the house....or some such thing)

The 'carbine' was unwrapped and shown me......yes, it was a M1 carbine, alright, and in excellent condition, but the barrel had been shortened down to 8 or 9", and the stock cut off and re-shaped to be a 'pistol grip'.

As I looked at it, I was thinking to myself, 'yes, I was prudent to ask a couple of friends to come along, to be witnesses if needed'.

I said to the owner, something to the order of......'if I understand correctly, the mere possession of this short-barreled modified carbine is a serious Federal felony, and you could be sent to prison for merely owning it. (he started to mumble something about 'not for me, it aint', but caught himself)

I'm willing to purchase it from you, as the price is attractive, but on one condition. I'm willing to let one of your friends hold the cash as a sort of 'escrow' situation, but there is something I'd have to do before the cash changes hands, that is, whilst you still own it.

I've brought a good hack saw, and some new blades. I'll take the carbine apart, and cut the illegally modified stock in half, you keep or discard the stock pieces. I'll cut the barrel off just a few thousandths away from the receiver, you keep or discard the barrel. I'll take only the receiver and small parts, which can legally be sold between private collectors, being a curio/relic item and over 50 years old.

This saves both of us from being guilty of the felony possession of a highly illegal weapon. Have we a deal, on those terms?'

I'll never forget the look he gave me, for a moment......pure poisonous toxic hatred.......or his comment, in quite dramatic terms, something like.....you (rather impolite obscenity), you think you're pretty (more impolite obscenity) smart, don't you, wasting my (expletive) time like this?

Needless to say, his alleged 'ignorance about guns', and the story of 'my wife doesn't want a gun in the house' just sort of 'evaporated'.....he wrapped up the illegal carbine, put it in his vehicle and left.....rather abruptly, I thought.

The 'moral of the story' is rather obvious, isn't it?

cheers

Carla

[NotEnoughGuns]

I could give you $350 for that M1A