Smash and Grab Gun Store Robbery

[audihenry]

found it...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Vx_yqrdpNE

Wow, that is insane! Most smaller gun shops I've been to, the employees have a gun on their side. I can't even imagine the reasoning they must have gone through to rob a gun store in broad daylight!

[bambam8d1]

its how we roll in riverside... go big or go home... haha yeah i have no idea... they were obvisouly douchebags... every small gunshop I have been to the employees were packing... and the indoor range. But turners employees never are... they got it like 2 or 3 times within a few months. then moved locations

[jdberger]

You either don't understand how the numbers are presented or you're trying to put words in my mouth.

I said, "Blacks commit more crime as a percentage of population than other groups. This is nothing more than fact. Do you dispute it?"

Key words being "AS A PERCENTAGE OF POPULATION" not overall crime. A minority can't possibly commit the most crime because they are outnumbered by whites and others.

Number of white people in the U.S.: 238 million
Number of black people in the U.S.: 38 million
Arrests White: 7.4 million
Arrests Black: 3 million

Total whites arrested as percentage of white population: 3.1%
Total blacks arrested as percentage of black population: 7.9%

Raw number source: http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2008/data/table_43.html

So, a difference of 2.5x. By now you're probably screaming "Racism!" because the numbers I used showed arrests, not crimes committed. Fine. Let's look at more numbers.

http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2008/offenses/expanded_information/data/shrtable_03.html

Given the population numbers, let's keep in mind that whites outnumber blacks by 6.25 times.

Total homicides white: 5334
Total homicides black: 5943

Adjusted for population, that's 7 times more. (the fact that the FBI numbers don't include hispanics makes this disparity even greater, meaning that whites, mexicans, and other "white" people put together killed fewer people than blacks as a percentage of population.)

I don't expect you to change your point of view nor do I care, but the numbers don't lie. The only people who think that they do are white apologists and racists.

Ya did great until you neglected in include the 5,000 of "unknown" race in there.

So, tell me - ever do any data compiling for the East Anglia CRU?

[audihenry]

Ya did great until you neglected in include the 5,000 of "unknown" race in there.

So, tell me - ever do any data compiling for the East Anglia CRU?

I am comparing black to black, white to white. Whatever the unknown is does not change the conclusions reached with the known data.

Still, to poke holes at the numbers or collection is a separate issue from the documented (white, black) crime rates and populations.

[NorCalMama]

I contend that it's not blacks but POOR people who commit the majority of crimes.

I hate to say it but I really HATE poor people. (not talking about people who are broke, there's a lot of those these days) It's something I can't stand about myself. I have no empathy and I don't feel bad for them at all. I hate people who take advantage of the system get on welfare or stand in line to buy their PAPA MURPHY'S PIZZA with an EBT card while I pay for mine with cash I WORKED FOR. I wish I had more feeling for these people but I just can't stand them.

I saw a chick the other day buying pizza with her EBT card and when she got into her car it still had OREGON plates on it.

I was so pissed. I was thinking, can't drag your *** *** down to DMV to get new plates but you can get down to the county office and get your ebt card??? Looks like I was buying pizza for the whole lot of them. I should add that the people in front of them ALSO bought pizza with THEIR EBT card as well. I was the only person in that place paying with real money. Made me sick.

Yeah, I was at a Raley's (not a cheap store at all) behind a woman with highlights in her hair and nicely manicured nails. She was paying for her food with WIC-MY tax dollars. I was fuming and tempted to take something out of her cart and tell her, "well, I did pay for part of this!"... As far as EBT cards, I was behind a woman who was buying sushi and a pepsi and paid with her EBT card. Poor folk gotta eat better than I do apparently. And on MY dime.

[norcal77]

seems like it isn't that hard to get it...I thought it was harder than this..at least military people can get it..they earned it.

http://www.socialsecurity.gov/pubs/10101.html

[jdberger]

I am comparing black to black, white to white. Whatever the unknown is does not change the conclusions reached with the known data.

Still, to poke holes at the numbers or collection is a separate issue from the documented (white, black) crime rates and populations.

Of course it does. The unknown race factor is very important. It's a third of total murderers. In fact, you can't make any definitive conclusion without it...unless you've already made your conclusion and are simply looking to massage data to get there.....

[Swamp Hound]

[jdberger]

SH - almost....but you made a fundamental error.

You got the units wrong.

"A Black person is 254% more likely to commit be arrested for a crime than a white person."

There's also the flaw of ignoring the unknown when the unknown is a third of the total....

[jdberger]

Sorry - one more small error was made above. It's assumed that each of those arrests are of an individual and distinct person. I'm willing to bet that there's quite a bit of duplication there - after all, one of the stats we use in the gun-rights debate is that "90% of the crimes are committed by 1% of the population" or something like that.

Further, something like 56% of violent felons have had a prior conviction. For more info, see Marvin Wolfgang.

[Echidin]

But really...walking down the street with a bunch of rifles?

Of course! Why would running down the street at night with a hand full of rifles/shotguns raise any suspicions?