Who here prefers the L.E.M OR DAK trigger

[battleship]

System vs the DA/SA trigger.

And how long did it take you to master it.

Im considering trading my HK P2000 in 40sw, L.E.M for a DA/SA version as i gave up mastering it after around 150 rounds, just to frustrating.

[blackbok]

System vs the DA/SA trigger.

And how long did it take you to master it.

Im considering trading my HK P2000 in 40sw, L.E.M for a DA/SA version as i gave up mastering it after around 150 rounds, just to frustrating.

I tried it before buying my da/sa p2000. Hated it. Some love it, I couldn't see why.

Oh well, some people like glocks. Some things I'll never understand.

[Barney Gumble]

I shoot my DA/SA pistols at the range and I love them but for self-defense I prefer a pistol that has the same trigger pull for every shot. For me that's Glock or 1911 because I don't like DA triggers.

[Rivers]

Definitely prefer the LEM trigger. In fact, after using both the DA/SA on my USP .45 and the light LEM of my P2000SK .40, I had HK convert my USP to the light LEM trigger too. Not having the external safety is actually safer for me as there is no confusion about whether the pistol is "safe" or not. As long as I keep my finger off the trigger, it's completely safe. And it has exactly the same trigger pull from round #1 to empty.

If the OP has not tried the lightened version of the LEM trigger, it's only two springs and about 30 minutes of nimble finger work to do the swap. Huge difference! The trigger pull goes from about 8# to about 4.5#, still very safe and predictable.

The key to mastering any trigger is to take your time with it, simply apply pressure to the trigger until it fires, and pay attention to feeling the trigger reset. After the trigger has been depressed to where a bullet is sent downrange, keep the trigger rearward against the grip. Now slowly let the trigger release forward until you feel the "click" of the reset point. Now you can fire again. The LEM's reset is distinct and very controllable. If you are practicing dry-firing, you MUST rack the slide after each drop of the hammer or you will feel the horrendously heavy double-strike trigger pull. That's only used if your ammo has a faulty primer that didn't fire with the first hit.

[battleship]

Thanks Rivers ill take what you said under consideration and have another wack at mastering this trigger.

[9mmepiphany]

And how long did it take you to master it.

about half a day

i was teaching a class in Ohio a couple of years ago. prior to the class, a student asked if i could help learn to shoot a Sig DAK 226. i got it to try and couldn't keep it in any kind of group on paper. he was going to take the class with a DA/SA 226 and just wanted some pointers during the break...i told him to bring it out and i'd get him squared away.

part of our first day or classes in working on the DA first shot on a DA/SA gun and firing the first shot as your arms reach extension...this is why there isn't a speed advantage to trigger types for an accurate first shot. when we broke for lunch he and i went to try out his DAK...i had never shot one before.

at something between 7-10 yards, i placed 3 rounds on the paper that all touched shooting are a controlled rate of about 1 sec between rounds...so now we knew the gun was accurate.

i handed him the gun and he shot a bit slower...he was peeking between shots...but all his shots were within 2". now i admit that 10 yards isn't a very long distance to be shooting at and the light was pretty good (as opposed to shooting indoors), but he was pretty happy.

we looked at each other and i said, "gee i don't see a problem with that DAK, do you?"

you might look around to see if there is a good instructor who can take a look at how you're managing your trigger...it's well worth the money spent to learn correct techniques

[roadwarrior1971]

I shot a Sig Pro P220 and couldn't hit for squat. I'm used to Glock and XD triggers

[9mmepiphany]

it takes a more (not different) technique to properly shoot a DA trigger, the nice thing is the mastering a DA trigger will make your SA trigger control better...it's the same technique, just over a longer distance