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  • #31
    Denver
    Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 125

    2) Anyone who tries to take your guns illegally is subject to appropriate use of force if/when they try to break in.
    Sorry but when Blackwater and the NG come to your door you probably will not be doing this unless you want to die. After Katrina whole affluent neighborhoods were raided by our own troops collecting guns. If you were not there they kicked in your door, if you were there they cuffed you and detained you on the sidewalk while they pulled out all of your firearms. This actually happened here in America. Guess what, when they declare Marshal Law all your rights are suspended like it or not. The dumbest thing you can do is get in a gun fight with the National Guard.

    The smart ones take this into account. Someone said stay below the radar, excelent choice.

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    • #32
      The Director
      Veteran Member
      • Sep 2008
      • 2769

      Originally posted by Denver
      Sorry but when Blackwater and the NG come to your door you probably will not be doing this unless you want to die. After Katrina whole affluent neighborhoods were raided by our own troops collecting guns. If you were not there they kicked in your door, if you were there they cuffed you and detained you on the sidewalk while they pulled out all of your firearms. This actually happened here in America. Guess what, when they declare Marshal Law all your rights are suspended like it or not. The dumbest thing you can do is get in a gun fight with the National Guard.

      The smart ones take this into account. Someone said stay below the radar, excelent choice.

      Lessons can be learned from history. Think WW2 resistance fighters....If mass confiscations happen, keep a couple of throw away guns that you don't mind losing when they come for them. hide the rest.

      People with RAWs are going to be the first ones visited...an OLL flies under the radar and is just as effective.

      Avoid contact with the authorities, keep on the move, and stay mobile, while trying to look as little like a high value target as possible.

      It would be utter foolhardiness to attempt to directly engage the police / national guard in direct combat....if they come for you it will probably be a platoon sized force at a minimum moving up the streets. You don't stand a chance, I don't care how heavily armed you are. Unless there are a few dozen of you.

      Even then they have access to weapons we could never have.

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      • #33
        colossians323
        Crusader for the truth!
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Oct 2005
        • 21637

        Originally posted by coltn46920
        Won't be too difficult with a group of highly trained swat/army/cops with full auto m4's and mp5's bust down your door and throw a concussion grenade that temporarily stuns/blinds you

        Just saying

        Not in a Shtf scenario, you saw the Police pillaging wal-mart and abandoning their posts. What do you think they are more concerned about, their own families, or their job?

        It wouldn't take much for an organized neighborhood to beat down the law breaking swat/army/cops, with semi autos, and hand guns.
        LIVE FREE OR DIE!

        M. Sage's I have a dream speech;

        Originally posted by M. Sage
        I dream about the day that the average would-be rapist is afraid to approach a woman who's walking alone at night. I dream of the day when two punks talk each other out of sticking up a liquor store because it's too damn risky.

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        • #34
          WeekendWarrior
          Veteran Member
          • Dec 2008
          • 3536

          WWRTW
          Last edited by WeekendWarrior; 06-17-2015, 8:49 AM.
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          in the hands of
          OH MY!

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          • #35
            rkt88edmo
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            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Dec 2002
            • 10057

            Originally posted by subse7en
            Because CIVs are getting out of hand and shooting LEOs and innocent CIVs that are not looting. Do you think they would sit back and let fellow LEOs be killed and do nothing?
            yeah like that LOL in the CHPinNOLA video...
            If it was a snake, it would have bit me.
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            • #36
              joepamjohn
              Veteran Member
              • Apr 2009
              • 2709

              Originally posted by 1spartan
              Badges I dont SEE no stinking badges. You can have my gun when you pry it from my cold dead fingers!
              Be carefull what you ask for, that can be arranged!
              "You can't handle the truth"

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              • #37
                joepamjohn
                Veteran Member
                • Apr 2009
                • 2709

                Originally posted by hawk81
                Seriously, if it comes down to this I will be so heavily armed that the police would probably leave me be. If not then they are in a world of hurtin.
                Or, you just are a dead man.
                "You can't handle the truth"

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                • #38
                  popeye4
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 1534

                  Originally posted by 1spartan
                  Badges I dont SEE no stinking badges. You can have my gun when you pry it from my cold dead fingers!
                  "Your proposal is accepted!" Bang!

                  I'll just smile and hand them my Mini-14....
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                  • #39
                    for2nato
                    Member
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 446

                    Originally posted by coltn46920
                    Won't be too difficult with a group of highly trained swat/army/cops with full auto m4's and mp5's bust down your door and throw a concussion grenade that temporarily stuns/blinds you

                    Just saying
                    you say this as if they are the only ones with these types of weapons. and surplus russian ammo is pretty inexpensive. plus any home can be readily turned into a fortified defensive strong hold. so short of blowing up your house. just to get your guns. a stand can easily be made against a force of arms. and once the rest of the public see that the govmit is actually killing people just to disarm them. the swhtf for them too. it only takes one man to start a revolution. are you that man? cause i might be.
                    Natural selection has arrived!!!

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                    • #40
                      M1A Rifleman
                      Veteran Member
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 3477

                      Originally posted by troysland
                      What happened in New Orleans will never happen in California.
                      I'm possibly being a bit TFH here, but I don't think I'd say never. The more I read the section you posted the more I read into it. For instance, it indicates a person lawfully carrying or possessing. I bet there are other provisions of the government code that could allow either a local LEO or the Gov to change this and make it not lawful if it ws so needed. The other way I see they could get around this is in the event of an evacuation where the Government is responsible for evacuating or even providing you with shelter. They could easily say no weapons as a condition of their shelter or in the case of a flood evac, no weapons on the boat.
                      The only thing that is worse than an idiot, is someone who argues with one.

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                      • #41
                        Stormfeather
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 7738

                        Originally posted by Denver
                        Sorry but when Blackwater and the NG come to your door you probably will not be doing this unless you want to die. After Katrina whole affluent neighborhoods were raided by our own troops collecting guns. If you were not there they kicked in your door, if you were there they cuffed you and detained you on the sidewalk while they pulled out all of your firearms. This actually happened here in America. Guess what, when they declare MarshalMartial Law all your rights are suspended like it or not. The dumbest thing you can do is get in a gun fight with the National Guard.

                        The smart ones take this into account. Someone said stay below the radar, excelent choice.
                        This sounds like the voice of someone who was there, can you tell me what was going on there when that happened? Was you there, I mean, it sounds like you have firsthand experience in it, so Im just curious. Oh, and fixed the above for you, not sure who that guy Marshal Law is.

                        Oh, and leave the fat guy jokes out of it, its a damn black body armor with a black shirt, thats why I look so damn fluffy!
                        Last edited by Stormfeather; 12-09-2009, 10:47 PM.
                        Originally posted by Soldier415
                        I am naked except for seatless white chaps, a boonie hat and a tactical vest playing HALO.
                        Originally posted by oaklander
                        I don't like getting my butt kicked, but I would like to have it spanked by some big hairy guys!
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                        I wouldn't put "mounting a weasel" past too many people on this forum.
                        Originally posted by hoffmang
                        Going after the NFA soon is like asking the girl you just met in the bar if she's into anal sex...
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                        • #42
                          Jorge
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2003
                          • 554

                          Originally posted by popeye4

                          I'll just smile and hand them my Mini-14....

                          The local street thugs and gangbangers watching this nearby will be smiling too, knowing which house to hit next.

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