Un-register assault weapon DOJ conversation

[mdouglas1980]

So I don't know if anyone remembers me posting about this a few weeks ago. I was trying to get ahold of the DOJ firearms since my dad has his SKS registered as an AW. He registered it way back in 89' or 90' since he thought that all SKS's needed to be registered. Any-who I finally got to talk to a woman at the DOJ (who was very nice and friendly on the phone with me) about how to un-register his SKS since it has a fixed 10 round. She told me that they are trying to implement a system to un-register assault weapons that since budget cuts have happened has been very slow going. She told me that she has had several questions about doing this and that it doesn't look like the system to un-register them will happen in the near future and in fact she told me one guy has been waiting for more than a year to do so. So it looks like I'm SOL? at least in the near future I guess... does this sound like BS to anyone else?

[Beelzy]

Un-doing anything in California is a nightmare. If it is firearm related expect
an even bigger one.

I say it's not going to happen.

[bwiese]

I don't know what the DOJ person you talked with is talking about.

An AW can indeed be de-registered if it's no longer an AW (i.e, not banned by name and no evil features). DOJ may ask questions about manner in which AW status was removed.

It sounds like the SKS in question was not an "SKS with detachable magazine" (or Norinco SKS-D) and was a regular SKS. The registration in early 90s should not have occurred (you can't register something that wasn't supposed to be covered).

[mdouglas1980]

I pretty thought it would be pretty easy, just fill out some paperwork and be done with it. I may look at their site closer and see if I can find something else besides the "no longer in possession" form. The woman I talked to was supposedly the with the firearms assault weapon division. The number I called was (916) 263 8100, I should have wrote down the woman's name that I spoke with though. oops

[REDHORSE]

My friend has de-registered ~20+ each RAWs (un-listed AW) over the years, so it is definitely doable. He plans on de-registering more to fund upgrading some of his other RAWs and acquiring the latest EBRs. He had like 30-40 registered FALs and many duplicates of other types of AWs. So to him it was no biggy getting rid of a lot of duplicates.

[mdouglas1980]

My friend has de-registered ~20+ each RAWs (un-listed AW) over the years, so it is definitely doable. He plans on de-registering more to fund upgrading some of his other RAWs and acquiring the latest EBRs. He had like 30-40 registered FALs and many duplicates of other types of AWs. So to him it was no biggy getting rid of a lot of duplicates.

do you know how he went about this?

[leelaw]

The registration in early 90s should not have occurred (you can't register something that wasn't supposed to be covered).

Should not have, but did.

I think there would be an uproar if DOJ demanded to inspect weapons for true AW status before allowing such a registration, especially on something banned by feature (SKS w/ detach mag).

I'm sure we've got some .50BMG rifles which were registered but were neither a designated .50BMG receiver (ie: Serbu, Barrett), or which were not assembled to be a .50BMG before the ban (ie: FAB-10 which never had a Ferret50 attached to it) yet they were registered.

The problem is getting the unregistration pushed through, which they do have a process for. The "we are designing a process and it will take forever" doesn't add up.

[GhillieGuy]

I say you turn it into an assault weapon (legally)

[CSACANNONEER]

I'm sure we've got some .50BMG rifles which were registered but were neither a designated .50BMG receiver (ie: Serbu, Barrett), or which were not assembled to be a .50BMG before the ban (ie: FAB-10 which never had a Ferret50 attached to it) yet they were registered.

You mean it was wrong to register my FAB10 while waiting for my ALS upper to be built?

[M1A Rifleman]

Help me understand, if it truly is NOT an AW as Bill mentions, then what is the problem? Just shoot and enjoy it. As Bill mentions if it not an AW then its not going to be on anyones radar, so its a so what.

You could also follow their proceedure and have the SKS removed from their files my stating its no longer in your fathers possession. Since was not an AW in the first place it should not make a difference if you then inherit the thing. Personally, I'm not so sure I'd be making such a big fuss over the issue since it was not an AW in the first place.

[smle-man]

I registered my 1187 because of a warning from CRPA at the time that the DOJ was going to consider them assault weapons if an extended tube was fitted (which they weren't). I later called the DOJ, talked to the lady, she asked for a picture of the gun, I sent it to her along with a copy of the original registration and a letter requesting that it be deregistered. A couple weeks later I got a letter in the mail saying it was deregistered. No big deal.

[leelaw]

You mean it was wrong to register my FAB10 while waiting for my ALS upper to be built?

In the case of AR-15 type lowers (ie: FAB-10) they are not .50BMG unless marked so, or they've had the .50BMG top-end installed upon it.

It'd be like registering a stripped, never built-upon AR lower in 2000, claiming that it was banned due to features (which it isn't, since it's neither a semi-auto rifle, nor has the evil features installed as long as it remains in a stripped state). Is it hair-splitting? sure.