So, I bought a mini 14 in 1998 and a couple 30 round mags that same year. It's a completely evil featureless rifle and so, the pre ban mags are legal. My question is this- In the past, I had a private place to shoot, and if that wasn't available, I had blm land available where nearly nobody was around and if they were, they didn't care. Now, semi recently, the blm land prohibited target shooting and I don't have a private range available anymore. I'm looking into public ranges and wanted to know peoples' opinions on high cap pre ban mags in public ranges. Does this fall into putting yourself into a bad situation even though it's technically legal? Is it more trouble than it's worth? I'm not a big fan of my stock 5 round box, but I'm not looking for trouble either....Talk amongst yourselves.
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What's the problem? If you legally own them and want to legally use them at a "public" range, there is no problem. Now, all "public" ranges are privately owned or, at least privately run so, they may have their own rules which you should follow and respect. But, I've never seen a range rule which limited the use of any magazine. I have heard something about limiting the number of rounds which can be loaded into an SKS but, that is for completely different reasons than what you're thinking about.NRA Certified Pistol, Rifle, Shotgun and Metallic Cartridge Reloading Instructor
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Some public ranges have a sign saying "no high cap mags" and yes sometimes you will prolly get knowledge-less people buggin you. but its obviously legal and therefore your right!Comment
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In my opinion, you are completely within the law to be using those mags with that rifle, so you should feel free to exercise your right to use them. At least at the ranges that I go to, there are people with standard cap mags everywhere and no one looks twice. These ranges are frequented by LEOs, and I haven't heard of anyone being hassled by them over EBRs or legal standard cap mags. I've never heard of any cases of a LEO coming up to a random person at a range and initiating an investigation into the legality of his/her magazines. Have any of you guys ever been questioned at a range (by LE) about the legality of your mags?So, I bought a mini 14 in 1998 and a couple 30 round mags that same year. It's a completely evil featureless rifle and so, the pre ban mags are legal. My question is this- In the past, I had a private place to shoot, and if that wasn't available, I had blm land available where nearly nobody was around and if they were, they didn't care. Now, semi recently, the blm land prohibited target shooting and I don't have a private range available anymore. I'm looking into public ranges and wanted to know peoples' opinions on high cap pre ban mags in public ranges. Does this fall into putting yourself into a bad situation even though it's technically legal? Is it more trouble than it's worth? I'm not a big fan of my stock 5 round box, but I'm not looking for trouble either....Talk amongst yourselves.Comment
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Featureless + high-caps = legal joy.
Unless the range has a problem with it, shoot it until the handguard melts.The way some gunshop clerks spout off, you'd think that they invented gunpowder and the repeating rifle, and sat on the Supreme Court as well.
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I agree with everyone. Be prepared for people to tell you it's illegal but don't make a big deal about it. Walk in with the gun and the mags and enjoy yourself. When someone mentions it to you, unless it's the range master, tell them thank you for the advice and you'll investigate the legalities of your firearms later but would like to focus on the shooting.Comment
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Thanks guys, I've just never shot at a public range and wanted to know some general feedback on personal experience. This makes me feel better about it.JonahComment
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Wasnt the "brady bill" AW garbage in effect from 1994 to 2004? Thus overlapping with California's own b.s. High cap law in 2000?Embrace the suck.
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Yes. I just think that you really don't understand what the '94 ban was. You've made several references to it like it was a ban against purchasing +10 round mags. It never set ANY restrictions on the purchase of any magazine. It only banned the manufacture of +10 round mags for civilian use. I was perfectly legal for anyone, of any age, to purchase +10 round mags in Ca. through 12-31-00. I hope this helps you better understand the flawed logic you keep using regarding the overlap of these two bans.NRA Certified Pistol, Rifle, Shotgun and Metallic Cartridge Reloading Instructor
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You didn't say where you live, but if it is anywhere near the Lytle Creek Firing Line off the 15fwy and Sierra, you are gtg.
I have shot my AK type OLL with the 30 round mags and 75 round drum that I bought in 1998 at the old Pomona gun show. They don't care.Comment
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Why would ATF give a flying ........about any magazines? They don't have much to do with state laws.Range officers are not the ATF. The only person that knows about your magazines is YOU.NRA Certified Pistol, Rifle, Shotgun and Metallic Cartridge Reloading Instructor
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Mags owned prior to cutoff + featureless rifle = no problem.
As above some unknowing or helpful types may give you guff, and some ranges won't allow them, but otherwise GTG.
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To the OP: Most range masters number one priority is safety. As long as you are being safe they usually stay out of your business.
I really don't mean to nitpick, and I know I have been doing it a lot lately.
But the date was actually 12-31-99.
12020 (2) Commencing January 1, 2000, manufactures or causes to be
manufactured, imports into the state, keeps for sale, or offers or
exposes for sale, or who gives, or lends, any large-capacity
magazine.Last edited by lorax3; 11-29-2009, 1:48 PM.You think you know, but you have no idea.
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I bought my last hi-cap mags on 12-28-99. Still have the mags, sold the gun awhile back.Actually I only started collecting Milsurps 3 years ago. I think I might own about 24...They're cheaper than guns that will most likely never get the opportunity to kill somebody...
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