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  • chaled
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    • Aug 2009
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    Last edited by chaled; 12-16-2009, 2:26 PM.
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    lorax3
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    • Jan 2009
    • 4633

    The lower is legally a firearm and would need to be checked in the same way any other firearm would be. 4A issues aside trying to bring a firearm to an airport without declaration is not the best of ideas.
    You think you know, but you have no idea.

    The information posted here is not legal advice. If you seek legal advice hire an attorney who is familiar with all the facts of your case.

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    • #3
      CSACANNONEER
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      NO! Always transport it legally and declare it. Or, you'll be asking us to put money on the books for you. You will need to transport it in a locked container which is approved by both the TSA and your airline. Call your airline and they will advise you on how to procede.
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      • #4
        Scratch705
        I need a LIFE!!
        • May 2009
        • 12530

        isn't the receiver a firearm in of it by itself as defined by federal laws?

        and no amount of "burying" will make it not show up on X-Ray scans. so unless you like being detained and anally probed by a TSA agent... i suggest you just call in in advance and do the whole paperwork/dance for checking in a firearm onto the plane.
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        • #5
          paul0660
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          • Jul 2007
          • 15669

          Chaled, are you serious?
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          • #6
            Untamed1972
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Mar 2009
            • 17579

            Not to mention check bags aside from declared firearms must be locked with TSA accessible locks which means someone would easily steal your firearms parts out of your bag.


            Follow the rules.....TSA regs aren't something you wanna mess around with.
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            • #7
              chaled
              Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 480

              So a bag of parts including the lower - must be checked in

              Bag of parts minus lower - no check in?

              Stipper lower must be in locked container?

              Don't worry i'm not trying to smuggle crap through the airport. Just was hoping to get some quick info here without digging.
              Last edited by chaled; 11-23-2009, 2:34 PM.

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              • #8
                hybridatsun350
                Calguns Addict
                • Apr 2007
                • 5336

                Originally posted by chaled
                So a bag of parts including the lower - must be checked in

                Bag of parts minus lower - no check in?
                Correct. The lower is the firearm.
                Dom

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                • #9
                  CHS
                  Moderator Emeritus
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 11338

                  Actually, a friend of mine does a talk about this sort of thing. The conclusion that we came to was as defined by FFA reg's and Fed reg's, you DO NOT need to declare something like a stripped lower receiver, as it does not meet the FAA's definition of a firearm.

                  You do however, have to declare things like flare guns, which do not meet the federal definition of firearm.

                  With that said, it's always a GOOD idea to declare your firearms, even if they lawfully don't need to be declared, because then you're allowed to lock your luggage without a TSA-approved lock. It does have to be hard-sided luggage though.

                  More info:

                  Please read the Calguns Wiki
                  Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.
                  --Cesare, Marquis of Beccaria, "On Crimes and Punishment"

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                  • #10
                    CHS
                    Moderator Emeritus
                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 11338

                    The talk he gives:

                    Please read the Calguns Wiki
                    Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.
                    --Cesare, Marquis of Beccaria, "On Crimes and Punishment"

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                    • #11
                      lorax3
                      Super Moderator
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                      • Jan 2009
                      • 4633

                      Originally posted by bdsmchs
                      The talk he gives:

                      Awesome video.
                      Last edited by lorax3; 11-23-2009, 3:26 PM.
                      You think you know, but you have no idea.

                      The information posted here is not legal advice. If you seek legal advice hire an attorney who is familiar with all the facts of your case.

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                      • #12
                        Barney Gumble
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2009
                        • 1047

                        Yeah I don't see why you would NOT want to declare it since it gives you the opportunity to use a much more secure lock (which TSA can't open) than you'd be able to if you don't declare.

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