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  • djbooya
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2008
    • 816

    Re: Gun Locks

    From: http://www.ag.ca.gov/firearms/fsdcertlist.php

    Effective January 1, 2002, no firearm may be sold, transferred, or manufactured within California unless that firearm is accompanied by a DOJ-approved firearms safety device (California Penal Code section 12087, et seq).
    Does this mean people who manufacture lowers or do any builds are required to ship them with DOJ-approved safety devices?
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    C.G.
    Calguns Addict
    • Oct 2005
    • 8230

    Originally posted by djbooya
    From: http://www.ag.ca.gov/firearms/fsdcertlist.php



    Does this mean people who manufacture lowers or do any builds are required to ship them with DOJ-approved safety devices?
    No, it means you have to buy a lock or sign an affidavit that you own a safe.
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      djbooya
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2008
      • 816

      Originally posted by C.G.
      No, it means you have to buy a lock or sign an affidavit that you own a safe.
      The part I'm confused about is it says "...manufactured within California unless that firearm is accompanied by a DOJ-approved firearms safety device (California Penal Code section 12087, et seq)."

      So doesn't that mean the manufacturer is required to ship a firearms safety device or they are not in compliant with that section of the penal code?
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      • #4
        CHS
        Moderator Emeritus
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Jan 2008
        • 11338

        it's complicated.

        A manufacturer who manufactures, say, a stripped lower receiver, has manufactured a title 1 firearm by Federal law, but has not manufactured what is recognized as a firearm according to that particular penal code section.

        So for the purposes of that section of law, a stripped lower receiver manufactured inside California, is not a firearm. I believe even a complete lower receiver wouldn't even be considered a firearm. Even though they are title 1 firearms.
        Please read the Calguns Wiki
        Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.
        --Cesare, Marquis of Beccaria, "On Crimes and Punishment"

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          djbooya
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2008
          • 816

          Originally posted by bdsmchs
          it's complicated.

          A manufacturer who manufactures, say, a stripped lower receiver, has manufactured a title 1 firearm by Federal law, but has not manufactured what is recognized as a firearm according to that particular penal code section.

          So for the purposes of that section of law, a stripped lower receiver manufactured inside California, is not a firearm. I believe even a complete lower receiver wouldn't even be considered a firearm. Even though they are title 1 firearms.
          ahh, that makes a little more sense to me, thanks for the clarification...
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