my wife forgot her gun

[PTMATTESON]

what is the shipping laws? my wife forgot her gun, at my brothers.( nor-cal) we live in so-cal. he went to fed-x and ups. one wouldnt even ship it. the other said it has to go to a dealer. is this true, even if, it's already in her name?

[xxdabroxx]

Has to be overnight. Springfield armory sent my pistol right back to my door. Dont tell them what it is, just to avoid the headache. Tell them its machine parts or something.

[Mssr. Eleganté]

Legally, he can ship it back to her. The two carriers that will take handguns are UPS and FedEx, but FedEx shipping rules require an FFL to be involved. UPS shipping rules allow for this kind of shipment, but some UPS employees don't know this. UPS requires that you ship the handgun using one of their "Next Day" services. UPS "Next Day Air Saver" is the cheapest option, but will still probably cost over $50. You also have to ship the package from a real UPS customer counter at a real UPS shipping facility, unless you have your own regular pickup account. The independently owned franchise "The UPS Store" places you see are not real UPS facilities and can't accept firearm shipments. If you use the online UPS web ship system to print up your own tracking label from your home computer, for some reason you tend to get less hassle from the UPS customer counter people than if you print up the shipping label using their system at the customer counter.

[Jonathan Doe]

The firearms can be shipped to its original owner directly as far as I know.

[00BuckShot]

IMO...just don't tell them what it is. (Maybe even disassemble it and call it parts.)

[IrishPirate]

have them either leave off your name and just put in the address, or put their name on it and have them send it to themselves at your address. make sure it's dissassembled though. you're screwed if you left ammo though, that cant go.

[Fjold]

true...so have them either leave off your name and just put in the address, or put their name on it and have them send it to themselves at your address. make sure it's dissassembled though. you're screwed if you left ammo though, that cant go.

I edited my answer because I found this:


From the BATF Firearms FAQs

(B8) May a nonlicensee ship a firearm by common or contract carrier? [Back]


A nonlicensee may ship a firearm by a common or contract carrier to a resident of his or her own State or to a licensee in any State. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun. In addition, Federal law requires that the carrier be notified that the shipment contains a firearm and prohibits common or contract carriers from requiring or causing any label to be placed on any package indicating that it contains a firearm.

[18 U.S.C. 922(a)(2)(A), 922(a) (3), 922(a)(5) and 922(e), 27 CFR 478.31 and 478.30]

[socalgunrunner]

Here is the link to the UPS website that mentions firearms shipments: http://www.ups.com/content/us/en/res.../firearms.html

[kajvid]

My daily UPS driver told me to break it down if you feel the need and use two packages. He suggested to skip the UPS rules and tell NO ONE it is a firearm. He said it'll get swiped by dock rats.

Not my doing....I'm just saying.

[Mssr. Eleganté]

I edited my answer because I found this:


From the BATF Firearms FAQs

(B8) May a nonlicensee ship a firearm by common or contract carrier? [Back]


A nonlicensee may ship a firearm by a common or contract carrier to a resident of his or her own State or to a licensee in any State. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun. In addition, Federal law requires that the carrier be notified that the shipment contains a firearm and prohibits common or contract carriers from requiring or causing any label to be placed on any package indicating that it contains a firearm.

[18 U.S.C. 922(a)(2)(A), 922(a) (3), 922(a)(5) and 922(e), 27 CFR 478.31 and 478.30]

That BATFE FAQ is a bit misleading. Federal law only requires you to notify the common or contract carrier that you are shipping a firearm if you are shipping to a non-licensee in another State. Since the shipment we are talking about here is between two people in the same State, no law will be broken by not telling the carrier about the firearm inside the package. However, you would be breaking UPS company rules if you don't tell them you are shipping a firearm and could put your loss/damage claim at risk if the firearm is lost or damaged in transit.

in interstate or foreign commerce, to persons other than licensed importers, licensed manufacturers, licensed dealers, or licensed collectors, any package or other container in which there is any firearm or ammunition without written notice to the carrier that such firearm or ammunition is being transported or shipped;

[swerv512]

yeah, i too heard of shady UPS guys that would have packages of value not declared come up missing....

[Sam .223]

if it were me i'd break it down and send it in 2 seperate boxes as parts.

[Clayface]

I would say diffrent packages and stuff the parts in the guts of a build-a-bear and overnight it.

[Blennidae]

I have never shipped a complete firearm, but when I have shipped a slide or frame (different occasions) I listed the contents of the package as "machined parts". I agree with the statement that stating its a firearm is just too likely to be stolen by the carrier.

[AndrewMendez]

I would disassemble it. I had to send a gun back to S&W and I felt like a criminal when I told them what it was. You do not have to disclose what your sending, but they do have the right to search.