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  • daskraut
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2006
    • 1775

    Link needed for new definition of non-detachable magazine

    I tried using the search and am too hung-over!! , please post the link , I am too damaged to find the exact new definition, as in letter of the law. This came up at the range yesterday and I couild not answer 100%.Thanks again.
    DK
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  • #2
    M. Sage
    Moderator Emeritus
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Jul 2006
    • 19759

    detachable magazine and
    any one of the following:


    Page two.

    It's not a new definition. It's right in SB23. It's an OOOOLD definition looked at in a new way.
    Originally posted by Deadbolt
    "We're here to take your land for your safety"

    "My Safety?" *click* "There, that was my safety"
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    • #3
      royta
      Member
      • Dec 2006
      • 168

      I wasn't aware of a "new" definition. Here's the one I'm familiar with.

      Well, the fact is that politicians don't get votes via logic, but an emotional public. Work 'em up, throw out some platitudes, get the votes.
      It's like being a pimp, but without the integrity. - triggerhappy

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      • #4
        royta
        Member
        • Dec 2006
        • 168

        SAS, that would be too convenient for you though. I think the "(if known)" is referring to the item between the two semi-colons. As in the day and the month.
        Well, the fact is that politicians don't get votes via logic, but an emotional public. Work 'em up, throw out some platitudes, get the votes.
        It's like being a pimp, but without the integrity. - triggerhappy

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        • #5
          daskraut
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2006
          • 1775

          What I am asking for is the new definition that explains what an acceptable non-detachable mag is, and may be locked in place with . I swear I saw something mentioning rivets are acceptable and other things that standard hand tools would not affect. Wasn't it in a recent caldoj memo?.
          Last edited by daskraut; 01-28-2007, 7:31 PM.
          You talking to me?

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          • #6
            hoffmang
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Apr 2006
            • 18448

            daskraut,

            There is a proposed regulation on the front page of the AG Firearms site, but it is not and will likely not become adopted. It has no force or effect until it is submitted to OAL and then published by the Secretary of State.

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            • #7
              SemiAutoSam
              Banned
              • Apr 2006
              • 9130

              On its face it looks like if you can take a Magazine out of the firearm its detachable but if we look deeper it defines just what a detachable magazine actually is.

              And we use their definition to be in compliance with the law.

              Last edited by SemiAutoSam; 01-29-2007, 9:00 AM.

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              • #8
                daskraut
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2006
                • 1775

                I searched again looking for that memo, I found some references to it, but could not find the memo. I just remember it had said what was an acceptable way to secure the magazine per their (caldoj's) thinking. Anybody have a copy saved?
                You talking to me?

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                • #9
                  royta
                  Member
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 168

                  It's not one of these on the bottom of THIS page is it? Specifically THIS? I sure hope not, as your DOJ fu is low.
                  Well, the fact is that politicians don't get votes via logic, but an emotional public. Work 'em up, throw out some platitudes, get the votes.
                  It's like being a pimp, but without the integrity. - triggerhappy

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                  • #10
                    daskraut
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2006
                    • 1775

                    What is DOJ fu??. It was the second one that talks about the rivet and epoxy or what ever. Thanks for the help on that. I figure if you use their guidelines you have less of a chance of being "F"ed with.
                    You talking to me?

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                    • #11
                      SemiAutoSam
                      Banned
                      • Apr 2006
                      • 9130

                      Originally posted by daskraut
                      What is DOJ fu??. It was the second one that talks about the rivet and epoxy or what ever. Thanks for the help on that. I figure if you use their guidelines you have less of a chance of being "F"ed with.
                      Last edited by SemiAutoSam; 01-29-2007, 7:24 PM.

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                      • #12
                        daskraut
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2006
                        • 1775

                        I hear ya on using their guidelines, but this was not for me. I bud at the range bought a cal bushmaster because he would not buy or make an OLL, I tried!. Once he had it, he hated the way it looked, so he sees me using the bushmaster 10round clips in my SU16 and says they look great. The next thing I know is he disassembles his new rifle, opened his magwell, pitched the original magazine and put in a new bushmaster 10 round magazine, then after asking me how to fasten it in, I recalled some of the memo and I told him to rivet it in place, which is how the original mag was held in place. I have forwarded the link to him and plan to bond the mag in place with some P/N2216 3m adhesive to "epoxy" it in place. I just want to make sure he will not be "F"ed with, or at least be 80% covered. Thanks for all your help, you guys rock.
                        You talking to me?

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                        • #13
                          Scarecrow Repair
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2006
                          • 2425

                          Originally posted by SemiAutoSam
                          Well basically the term comes from a Movie called "the core" this little weasel computer nerd in the film kept saying my kung fu is strong.

                          and people just keep using the FU part when they need to do something computer related like using Google or looking up memos on the DOJH website.
                          I think it goes way back. Do you remember the Joe Bob Briggs movie reviews? (I may have the name wrong.) He used to review drive in movies and rate them on how many pints of blood and what kind of -fu they had -- axe-fu, grenade-fu, chainsaw-fu, etc. His reviews were better than the movies.
                          Mention the Deacons for Defense and Justice and make both left and right wingnuts squirm

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                          • #14
                            hoffmang
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Apr 2006
                            • 18448

                            daskraut,

                            If by "Cal Bushmaster" you mean a Bushmaster that was welded up by Evan's, that gun may be ILLEGAL. A Calgunner who shall remain nameless was told to surrender his Evan's welded lower to a local Law Enforcement organization.

                            The DOJ doesn't understand California laws. I am not kidding.

                            -Gene
                            Gene Hoffman
                            Chairman, California Gun Rights Foundation

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                            • #15
                              SemiAutoSam
                              Banned
                              • Apr 2006
                              • 9130

                              Joe Bob Briggs hmmm didn't he do a motel 6 commercial ?
                              I don't remember maybe it was during my days in the navy I was incommunicado during that time period.

                              Originally posted by Scarecrow Repair
                              I think it goes way back. Do you remember the Joe Bob Briggs movie reviews? (I may have the name wrong.) He used to review drive in movies and rate them on how many pints of blood and what kind of -fu they had -- axe-fu, grenade-fu, chainsaw-fu, etc. His reviews were better than the movies.

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