Front Site Firearms Training

[MFortie]

Do a search on Front Sight and you'll find lots of good info (and maybe a membership or two for sale...)

[powaybob]

Mooster, I was there 16-20 October.

[Crust]

Going on Dec 3rd for the 2 day handgun w/ my dad. should be good bonding. might decide on a membership while there. Good to hear all the good reviews.

[chunger]

I'd suggest buying certificates to check the place and classes out before signing up for any sort of membership. As mentioned above, lots of folks here at Calguns (send PM if you need to locate some) have certificates available for less than can be found on Ebay. I've found the introductory classes (pistol and rifle) to be of great help as I took them when just learning to shoot.

There is a tendency in the classroom lessons to infer that Front Sight is the only place to safely hone your skills which is not true. You can participate in IPSC or other forms of action shooting to further refine your gun handling skills in a safe environment. The program is designed to require your return visits in order to progress.

In the introductory classes, you will not be taught movement, only static weapons handling and marksmanship. Another note on the pistol class, you will be taught to shoot from the weaver platform. For what it's worth, you may have to make adjustments and un-learn some things later on if you plan to seriously compete in action pistol sports.

[KylaGWolf]

I'd suggest buying certificates to check the place and classes out before signing up for any sort of membership. As mentioned above, lots of folks here at Calguns (send PM if you need to locate some) have certificates available for less than can be found on Ebay. I've found the introductory classes (pistol and rifle) to be of great help as I took them when just learning to shoot.

There is a tendency in the classroom lessons to infer that Front Sight is the only place to safely hone your skills which is not true. You can participate in IPSC or other forms of action shooting to further refine your gun handling skills in a safe environment. The program is designed to require your return visits in order to progress.

In the introductory classes, you will not be taught movement, only static weapons handling and marksmanship. Another note on the pistol class, you will be taught to shoot from the weaver platform. For what it's worth, you may have to make adjustments and un-learn some things later on if you plan to seriously compete in action pistol sports.

Really they didn't imply they were the only ones to teach safety when I was there in September but they did say they do things a bit different than other courses. As for position teach you to shoot from I figure learning other methods gives you other options for different situations. As for me I don't think I will ever be able to compete in actions pistol sports. But then again I figure if I can defend myself and feel confident to do so and do it well even disabled then all is good.

[Stormfeather]

Depending on what you're looking to get out of your training, I think you can do better than Front Sight. I am wary of any school offering Rolex watches with a membership. I'm not looking for status symbols, I'm looking for training...

If you're looking for a class to learn pistol-handling, Front Sight is a good place.

If you're looking for practical gunfighting/self defense skills, there are better schools than Front Sight.

YMMV

Im just curious, have you ever been to FrontSite?

[-hanko]

Just this little blurb here reminds me of those pheromone scents/penile enhancement ads in the back of gun/hunting mags.

I love those...obviously if either product actually worked do you think they'd even need to advertise??

-hanko

[AndrewMendez]

anyone selling a pass?? PM Me

[mrkubota]

I've got a few of them... I'll dig them out and let you know what's available tomorrow... //Ben (mrkubota@yahoo.com)

[1JimMarch]

Shaky finances, such that I would think hard about anything involving paying a lot up front for services later. And DO NOT get involved in anything like a real estate deal. Don't even think about it.

The main marketing guy is a Scientologist and there's some pretty obvious "stylistic similarities" in the advertising and pitches. I am NOT saying anybody is going to preach that at you or even mention it, I've heard no reports of that. Just saying, if the marketing style seems extra-sleazy, there's part of your explanation...

And do avoid the rope slide thingie. I suspect they took all that crap down after they managed to kill somebody with it.

[jmf_tracy]

1jimmarch - how do you figure there is anything regarding scientology? i have been a member for several years and i have never heard anything even remotely like this. have you ever been to frontsight?

op - i actually really like frontsight and have been to many courses and met some really interesting people and made new friends there. the training is top notch, but not as flashy as some other places. yes, the marketing can be a little annoying at times, but it is a business and they do need to advertise. as far as the memberships advertised on their website: yes they are expensive, but i don't think many people buy them. when you go to a class, they will offer you a membership at a very reasonable price if you buy it there during the class. i had 2 memberships and just sold one to a calgunner. if anyone is still looking for a membership then you can PM me. i have a friend who is selling a Legacy membership for $1500, same deal as i just sold.

[rkt88edmo]

I think it is pretty clear he is saying that Piazza is a scientologist. I don't think there is any question about that. And I think that the marketing approach feeling skeezy is also generally agreed upon.

[Crust]

I just got back on Sunday from the 2 day defensive handgun. No mention of Scientology and no hard sell of anything. There were a couple videos shown that were a little over the top cheese-wise. I felt safer there than even talking to one of our local NRA instructors on the phone.

For the most part good info and honed some skills and learned new ways to do a few others. Lectures and information was good. first day was 11 hours and second was 10. Well worth the trip. Any training is good training, you wouldn't go to a doctor who felt that he did not need anymore training. Right?

[Untamed1972]

The thing I like to point out to people to consider when thinking of a membership is that even though you can take classes as often as you want at no additional cost, everytime you go to a class you're looking at $300-400 in travel and lodging expense plus a couple of days off work if you're taking a 4-day class.

If you can find training in your local area for $300-400 a class then the Front Sight" take the class as many times as you want deal really isn't that much of a deal is it? If anything you've spent more because you had to pay for the membership PLUS the $300-400 in travel costs everytime you go.

Do the math:

$2000+ for membership + 10 trips at $350 travel expense = $5500

10 classes closer to home with no travel costs @ $350 each = $3500

The cost of training closer to home is offset by the travel costs to go to Front Sight.

The part I liked the most at Front Sight.....not havin' to police your brass at the end of the day!

To summarize my experience there: Front Sight = 500 white people in cargo pants with guns and 3 black guys. (That was just my humorous observation while I was there.)

[rkt88edmo]

+$50 each year you take a class for the background check

That being said, there are also some folks who tent it or take a camper.

In any case, you just have to realize that the going rate for instruction right now is $100-$200 and there is training available all over the place, but most places don't do anywhere near as much marketing.

The thing I like to point out to people to consider when thinking of a membership is that even though you can take classes as often as you want at no additional cost, everytime you go to a class you're looking at $300-400 in travel and lodging expense plus a couple of days off work if you're taking a 4-day class.

If you can find training in your local area for $300-400 a class then the Front Sight" take the class as many times as you want deal really isn't that much of a deal is it? If anything you've spent more because you had to pay for the membership PLUS the $300-400 in travel costs everytime you go.

Do the math:

$2000+ for membership + 10 trips at $350 travel expense = $5500

10 classes closer to home with no travel costs @ $350 each = $3500

The cost of training closer to home is offset by the travel costs to go to Front Sight.

The part I liked the most at Front Sight.....not havin' to police your brass at the end of the day!

To summarize my experience there: Front Sight = 500 white people in cargo pants with guns and 3 black guys. (That was just my humorous observation while I was there.)