American Rifleman

[CHS]

What I take offense to is intentionally divisive people taking pot shots at other gun owners because of the types of firearms the do, or do not own. Zumbos, Elmer Fudd, are not different than today's Tactical Paper-Punchers and Mall Ninjas. What's funny is listening to folks who's entire experience around firearms is limited to "EBR's" bag on hunters that own nothing more than hunting rifles and vice versa.......it's stupid, period.

Well, the difference is that in my experience, I see "Zumbo's" ragging on EBR and Mall Ninja people far more often and quicker than the opposite.

People that think their better than others based on what firearms they own what they do with those firearms, are idiots.

100% Agreed.

[tankerman]

I disagree.
Use this board as an example.

Well, the difference is that in my experience, I see "Zumbo's" ragging on EBR and Mall Ninja people far more often and quicker than the opposite.

[Mitch]

Is it lunchtime where you are, too?

What I take offense to is intentionally divisive people taking pot shots at other gun owners because of the types of firearms the do, or do not own.

I don't care whether someone is a gun owner or not, the enemy is the enemy. As I said above, "the term 'Zumbo' refers to those outdoorsmen who would happily sell our gun rights down the river as long as they were left alone to kill animals with their wooden-stocked rifles and shotguns." Especially people who refer to AR-15s as "terrorist rifles," as Zumbo did.

Such people are no better than the Bradyites, and I bet you have a lot of funny names for them, too.

"Mall Ninja" is another useful phrase that describes a particular type. Such people probably aren't doing the gun rights movement any favors, but they aren't actively working against it, either.

[Mitch]

I disagree.

So here's the original blog entry as a reminder:

I must be living in a vacuum. The guides on our hunt tell me that the use of AR and AK rifles have a rapidly growing following among hunters, especially prairie dog hunters. I had no clue. Only once in my life have I ever seen anyone using one of these firearms. I call them "assault" rifles, which may upset some people. Excuse me, maybe I'm a traditionalist, but I see no place for these weapons among our hunting fraternity. I'll go so far as to call them "terrorist" rifles. They tell me that some companies are producing assault rifles that are "tackdrivers." Sorry, folks, in my humble opinion, these things have no place in hunting. We don't need to be lumped into the group of people who terrorize the world with them, which is an obvious concern. I've always been comfortable with the statement that hunters don't use assault rifles. We've always been proud of our "sporting firearms." This really has me concerned. As hunters, we don't need the image of walking around the woods carrying one of these weapons. To most of the public, an assault rifle is a terrifying thing. Let's divorce ourselves from them. I say game departments should ban them from the prairies and woods.

Sarah Brady couldn't have said it better.

[CHS]

I disagree.
Use this board as an example.

How on earth can you disagree with *MY* experiences? This is what I've experienced. I'm quoting fact at you. Maybe you've had a different experience? That's fine. But you're wrong to disagree with mine.

[CHS]

Sarah Brady couldn't have said it better.

For the record, I love my terrorist rifles

[dwtt]

What I take offense to is intentionally divisive people taking pot shots at other gun owners because of the types of firearms the do, or do not own. Zumbos, Elmer Fudd, are not different than today's Tactical Paper-Punchers and Mall Ninjas. What's funny is listening to folks who's entire experience around firearms is limited to "EBR's" bag on hunters that own nothing more than hunting rifles and vice versa.......it's stupid, period.

People that think their better than others based on what firearms they own what they do with those firearms, are idiots.

This is exactly what Zumbo did and this is why his name is a generic term for those gun owners who think the 2nd A is only about hunting and would like to see semiautomatic rifles banned. He called them terrorist rifles, and I am a terrorist by his definition.
It's interesting that noone actually called you a Zumbo, but you took great offense. Is there something about you we don't know that you want to share with us? The term Zumbo refers to those hunters who think the 2nd A is there to protect only them and their hunting rifles, and that other rifles don't deserve protection. I called this elitist attitude the country club attitude in an earlier post and it's summarized in your own words above. You shouldn't assume others have shot only black rifles just because they don't like the Zumbos in our midst.
As for American Rifleman, you should look at back issues from a few years ago and compare the articles to the Nov and Oct 2009 issues. There's a marked difference in the writing. Like another person here, I used to look through the AR for a few minutes then throw it into the recycling bin, even back in 1989 when I first joined the NRA. Now I find the articles interesting enough to read completely. Take a look at the latest issue and see for yourself.

Yes, I agree with you, "People that think their better than others based on what firearms they own what they do with those firearms, are idiots.", so do your best to educate any Zumbos you might encounter when you go hunting.

[tankerman]

It's interesting that noone actually called you a Zumbo, but you took great offense. Is there something about you we don't know that you want to share with us?

I take offense at your divisiveness..
So no, there's nothing I want to tell "us", because there is no "us", you're speaking for yourself not for "us". Rather I'll address you directly; You are just another Keyboard Commando.

[MidnightSon117]

100's of articles on how to swap out a snap-on AR component is just as boring as reading another article on another manufacturer coming out with a 1911.

It may be boring information to you, but just because it's been printed before doesn't mean it shouldn't be printed again. Not everyone who picks up American Rifleman is going to be a veteran shooter.

I've been reading for about 7 years now, and the writing and layout has definitely gotten better recently. I can also say they're not just covering AR's.

[tankerman]

Generally, I find the gun reviews boring (a lot of folks complain about this, not just in American Rifleman, but in most all gun mags), most seem like just another companies version of one of the standards and the reviews are often less than complete, failing to offer real performance data, or any objective info, rather they seem more like advertisements.

What I didn't like was the assumptions on the motives of the folks writing and editing for NRA publications, and the assumption that 'just now' they started printing quality info on care/maintenance, gunsmithing, reloading, firearm theory, construction etc...

It may be boring information to you, but just because it's been printed before doesn't mean it shouldn't be printed again. Not everyone who picks up American Rifleman is going to be a veteran shooter.

I've been reading for about 7 years now, and the writing and layout has definitely gotten better recently. I can also say they're not just covering AR's.

[dwtt]

I take offense at your divisiveness..
So no, there's nothing I want to tell "us", because there is no "us", you're speaking for yourself not for "us". Rather I'll address you directly; You are just another Keyboard Commando.

You're wrong. The Zumbos who think the 2nd Amendment only protects their guns are the dividers. Like I said earlier, if you should encounter a Zumbo, help out all gun owners by educating them about the 2nd A.
I can't be a keyboard commando, I don't have a tactical keyboard and mouse set up yet, but I do walk around in utilities, jungle boots, and black T-shirts.