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  • #16
    ke6guj
    Moderator
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Nov 2003
    • 23725

    Originally posted by bdsmchs
    FYI, to actually answer the original question, there already is a handgun flowchart:

    http://www.calguns.net/caawid/hgflowchart.pdf
    yup, the handgun legality flowchart deals with the legality of the assembled pistol, but it does not deal with the different methods of acquisition. I think the OP is looking for something that explains step-by-step the methods to acquire an AR-pistol, showing all the roster-exemptions and how to use them.
    Jack



    Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

    No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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    • #17
      Harley
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2008
      • 1782

      Originally posted by Hopi
      How to become the owner of an Ar-15 pistol.....


      The hard way to import
      -Pistol must meet dimensional compliance (6+ " barrel)
      -Meet single shot exemption
      -Properly configured to avoid AW laws (i.e. if semi-auto, mag needs to be locked)

      The cheating way to import
      If you're an LEO you can have a stripped pistol lower or complete pistol (non-AW) imported via the safe-list leo exemption.

      If you're an ordinary citizen, you can have a stripped pistol lower or complete pistol (non-AW) imported via the Ifamily exemption.

      *note that LEO can purchase stripped pistol lowers or complete pistols from FFls inside CA.
      *note that Ordinary citizens can purchase stripped pistol lowers, or complete pistols PTP inside CA.


      The fun way, no import needed
      -Complete an 80% receiver into a pistol lower. Then build a dimensionally compliant, single-shot AR-15 pistol.
      1. So If I order a stripped pistol lower, lpk, buffer tube, BB, and single shot sled, I would then have a unassembled (complete pistol lower) do I then send to a middle man to configure??.......Or?

      2. A law enforcement contact is available, if need be. (I would like to do without.)

      3. At what point do I order a complete upper (7.5inch with KX3), after I have had the pistol lower configured and Drosed(sp?) in my possession? (Is that constructive poss?)

      4. Can all parts be sent to a FFL here in Kalifornia to be assembled?? Does FFL have to be 07?

      Please pardon me on being uneducated on this subject.

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      • #18
        Harley
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2008
        • 1782

        TTP

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        • #19
          Hopi
          Calguns Addict
          • Oct 2005
          • 7700

          Originally posted by Harley
          1. So If I order a stripped pistol lower, lpk, buffer tube, BB, and single shot sled, I would then have a unassembled (complete pistol lower) do I then send to a middle man to configure??.......Or?

          You would purchase and have it sent to an out of state middleman FFL for assembly and importation to your CA FFL.

          2. A law enforcement contact is available, if need be. (I would like to do without.)

          If an LEO happens to own a stripped pistol lower, and decides to sell it to you PPT, that would be an easy route for acquisition.

          3. At what point do I order a complete upper (7.5inch with KX3), after I have had the pistol lower configured and Drosed(sp?) in my possession? (Is that constructive poss?).

          For option #1, it would need to be assembled by your middleman FFL. You'd purchase the upper and have it sent directly to them.

          For option #2, you could order an upper directly to you after you've acquired the stripped lower.



          4. Can all parts be sent to a FFL here in Kalifornia to be assembled?? Does FFL have to be 07?

          Yes, parts can be sent into CA. An 07 is not necessary but 01 FFLs must pay a tax when they build guns, so most like to avoid that.

          Please pardon me on being uneducated on this subject.

          Answers in bold....

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          • #20
            Harley
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2008
            • 1782

            Originally posted by Hopi
            Answers in bold....
            Thank you Hopi!

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            • #21
              Hopi
              Calguns Addict
              • Oct 2005
              • 7700

              Originally posted by Harley
              Thank you Hopi!
              No problem.

              Originally posted by ke6guj
              yup, the handgun legality flowchart deals with the legality of the assembled pistol, but it does not deal with the different methods of acquisition. I think the OP is looking for something that explains step-by-step the methods to acquire an AR-pistol, showing all the roster-exemptions and how to use them.
              Perhaps this, or a how-to section for acquiring off-list handguns, should be added to the flowchart? Maybe sticky this thread in the handgun forum?

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              • #22
                Mitch
                Mostly Harmless
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Mar 2008
                • 6574

                Another solution is to go to Riflegear in Costa Mesa and buy one. They have them sitting behind the counter.
                Originally posted by cockedandglocked
                Getting called a DOJ shill has become a rite of passage around here. I've certainly been called that more than once - I've even seen Kes get called that. I haven't seen Red-O get called that yet, which is very suspicious to me, and means he's probably a DOJ shill.

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