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  • #61
    resident-shooter
    Banned
    • Sep 2009
    • 2777

    You do not need a license unless u hunt. I was not hunting, so they did not fine me for that.

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    • #62
      joepamjohn
      Veteran Member
      • Apr 2009
      • 2709

      Originally posted by B Strong
      Get a lawyer.

      Just walking into court and telling the judge that you can't ubderstand why the fine is so high won't get you anywhere.

      At least get the fine knocked down a bit and get a payment plan.

      Best of luck.
      Yeah. Get a lawyer and pay him 5 times what your fine is to fight it. Since this is not a criminal case you will never get a DA to represent you. The signs with bullet holes in them just make it worse for the guy they do catch there. It sucks but that is just the way it is.
      Last edited by joepamjohn; 10-31-2009, 1:52 PM.
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      • #63
        audihenry
        Veteran Member
        • Feb 2008
        • 2909

        Can't you just argue you were hunting and had set up temporary targets to sight in or something?

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        • #64
          RobG
          Veteran Member
          • Dec 2006
          • 4887

          Originally posted by resident-shooter
          Well, I mean it is not a felony or anything super serious. It was in Sacramento Bypass Wildlife Area.
          Dude there are signs that state shotguns/shotshells only all over that place. There is also the check station down the road that could have saved you a heap of trouble.

          Pay the fine unless you think you could hire an attorney for less than 1142.00.

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          • #65
            m98
            Veteran Member
            • Jul 2005
            • 4088

            You got screwed like me and my buddies back when I was still a kid. We were out playing paintball in a wildlife area and dfg showed up and gave us tickets for "having a propulsive device in wildlife area". A friggin d*ckhead, we were just kids playing paintball, should of just gave us a warning and to leave. The area has been used to play pball in the last 10+yrs by other pball players and that's how we knew of the area.

            Our fines were 300bucks for Really Doing nothing wrong other than WHatever this States pathetic Lawmakers had put down on paper. There's just a thin line between Laws that have been broken and ethical calls by any warden/leo.

            But I think in the OP's case, he's really screwd and would probably just need to pay the fine. If I remember correctly in the dfg handbook, it specifically states that no centerfire or Rifle firearms are allowed in the wildlife areas. And that pretty much includes any 22lr, pistols, rifles.
            Last edited by m98; 10-31-2009, 2:45 PM.
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            • #66
              pieeater
              Cattle Thieves Pro Staff
              • Oct 2005
              • 5404

              Like the others said get an attorney. I know a good one that is 400 an hour let him spend a couple hours researching and a couple more going to court with you.

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              • #67
                pieeater
                Cattle Thieves Pro Staff
                • Oct 2005
                • 5404

                I love all the "this states screwed up laws comment" im sure its ok to target shoot in other states WAs. I mean they call them wildlife areas for a reason.
                Something that is posted "state wildlife area" all over it dont ya think maybe their are some rules. Maybe you should check before you target shoot, dirt bike, cut firewood etc.

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                • #68
                  CHS
                  Moderator Emeritus
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 11338

                  Originally posted by pieeater
                  Like the others said get an attorney. I know a good one that is 400 an hour let him spend a couple hours researching and a couple more going to court with you.
                  The OP's ticket was 1100-something.

                  You just told him he should spend 1600 on an attorney?
                  Please read the Calguns Wiki
                  Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.
                  --Cesare, Marquis of Beccaria, "On Crimes and Punishment"

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                  • #69
                    RobG
                    Veteran Member
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 4887

                    Originally posted by bdsmchs
                    The OP's ticket was 1100-something.

                    You just told him he should spend 1600 on an attorney?
                    I aint no math wiz buts I come up wit da same ting

                    For 1142 it isn't worth paying for an atty. Even if you only paid 600 for the atty, there is no guarantee that the fine would be reduced. And if it was reduced even by half, you are still more than the original fine. Pony up cowboy. Maybe some CGers can help you out; got any guns to sell

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                    • #70
                      U2BassAce
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2007
                      • 1677

                      Am I the only one that is worried about a possible misdemeanor ending up on my record? Especially one that has firearms attached to it? I guess if you are guilty you are guilty. But maybe an attorney can get it dropped to something less than a misdemeanor?

                      You just never know when that little misdemeanor on your record will pop up and bite you in the b*utt. Just saying.......

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                      • #71
                        pieeater
                        Cattle Thieves Pro Staff
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 5404

                        Originally posted by bdsmchs
                        The OP's ticket was 1100-something.

                        You just told him he should spend 1600 on an attorney?
                        I was being a smartass. lol

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                        • #72
                          CHS
                          Moderator Emeritus
                          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                          • Jan 2008
                          • 11338

                          Originally posted by U2BassAce
                          Am I the only one that is worried about a possible misdemeanor ending up on my record? Especially one that has firearms attached to it? I guess if you are guilty you are guilty. But maybe an attorney can get it dropped to something less than a misdemeanor?

                          You just never know when that little misdemeanor on your record will pop up and bite you in the b*utt. Just saying.......
                          A ticket is NOT a misdemeanor.
                          Please read the Calguns Wiki
                          Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.
                          --Cesare, Marquis of Beccaria, "On Crimes and Punishment"

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                          • #73
                            Napalm Bulldog
                            Veteran Member
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 4266

                            Originally posted by LesGrossman41510
                            thats why i go to the NATIONAL forest!!

                            If i ever get questioned im hunting squirrels and my aim sucks...LOL
                            Yeah I heard those paper things with an orange cirlce in the middle make great squirrel bait!

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                            • #74
                              Darklyte27
                              Calguns Addict
                              • May 2008
                              • 9372

                              man that's too bad, its kind of hard to argue, because if you weren't sure you should have found out by contacting DFG.

                              No lawyer but can he really defend himself? take pictures of the signs and say that he saw that there was no restriction to do what he did? Then maybe the judge would lower it or at least have some sympathy and give you a break or forget it all.
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                              • #75
                                RobG
                                Veteran Member
                                • Dec 2006
                                • 4887

                                Originally posted by Darklyte27
                                man that's too bad, its kind of hard to argue, because if you weren't sure you should have found out by contacting DFG.

                                No lawyer but can he really defend himself? take pictures of the signs and say that he saw that there was no restriction to do what he did? Then maybe the judge would lower it or at least have some sympathy and give you a break or forget it all.
                                The signs I have seen all say "shotguns/shotshells" only. Not sure that would help

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