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  • #31
    JayDeeSacramento
    Member
    • Feb 2008
    • 294

    I imagine this being an interesting exchange

    Officer- "So you're saying you shot the intruder"
    Homeowner- "that's correct"
    Officer- "Why are you wearing a holster?"

    I could see some lawyers having a field day with that one.

    I personally can't see carrying around a house. I'm married though and have a young child...doesn't work for me. Of course I wouldn't have done it when I was single though either. More power to people that do it. I think it's weird but who am I to judge what you do in the privacy of your own home.

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    • #32
      Turbinator
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      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Oct 2005
      • 11989

      Originally posted by JayDeeSacramento
      I imagine this being an interesting exchange

      Officer- "So you're saying you shot the intruder"
      Homeowner- "that's correct"
      Officer- "Why are you wearing a holster?"
      For the same reason why I wear seat belts.

      I hope to the Tree Frog God that I don't get into an accident. The seat belt is there *in the unlikely case that I do*.

      Accidents are never planned.

      Same goes for the IWB holster at home. And the spare tire in the car. And the first aid kit in the car. And the fire extinguisher in the garage.

      Turby

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      • #33
        JayDeeSacramento
        Member
        • Feb 2008
        • 294

        That's a good answer...I'd love to read a police report though about someone that was carrying openly or concealed in their home when someone broke in...just curious

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        • #34
          tuna quesadilla
          Calguns Addict
          • Apr 2006
          • 5147

          Originally posted by caoboy
          Yeah...what is your reasoning behind OC/CC around the house? The house is the one place you should feel safe...
          Yeah...what is your reasoning behind advocating OC/CC around college campus? The campus is the one place you should feel safe...

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          • #35
            Barney Gumble
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2009
            • 1047

            Originally posted by JayDeeSacramento
            I imagine this being an interesting exchange

            Officer- "So you're saying you shot the intruder"
            Homeowner- "that's correct"
            Officer- "Why are you wearing a holster?"

            I could see some lawyers having a field day with that one.

            I personally can't see carrying around a house. I'm married though and have a young child...doesn't work for me. Of course I wouldn't have done it when I was single though either. More power to people that do it. I think it's weird but who am I to judge what you do in the privacy of your own home.
            You have to do whatever you're comfortable with. My logic was that a home invasion is about as unlikely as me getting into a car accident. I never EXPECT to get into a car accident and yet I do strap on my seat belt every time I get in the car.

            Same goes for carrying. I work from home so I'm home alone all day. If someone broke into the house I might not hear them. I could be on a conference call, or listening to music, or whatever. By the time I'm aware someone is in the house I won't have time to get to the safe and get my pistol out. I have a wife and young kids too and to me this is even more reason to carry. The main difference between my two examples is that anyone can throw on a seatbelt, but carrying a firearm involves a lot more responsibility and training.

            Btw I carry in Condition 1 (round chambered) for the same reason that I carry in the first place, which is to be prepared for the case where I don't have time to get prepared.

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            • #36
              joepamjohn
              Veteran Member
              • Apr 2009
              • 2709

              So let me get this straight. You are out mowing the lawn, cleaning the gutters, cooking dinner, watching the big game with your buddies, washing the car, all the while carrying your "rig" in case the pizza guy really isn't who he say's he is? When the door bell rings, you go into "commando" mode to see if it is really an attack or just a solicitor? Do you have your wife "cover" you so you can go out and get the morning paper?

              I realize that the world can be a pretty cruel place, but at least to me this seems to be a little on the side of over kill (no pun). I would suggest moving to a decent neighborhood and getting some locks, deadbolts, and a quality alarm system to keep your home safe. Maybe get a dog that will bark (or bite) so you can get to the guns you have hidden in every room before the bad guys do. I know that bad things can happen in "nice" areas too, but you may be able to set your mind a little more at ease (probably not).

              If you have to "return fire" two different times, pull out your gun four more times in your living room, had numerous break-ins, are frequently burdened by Police helicopters hovering over your house with search lights, or are regularly witnessing drug deals,rapes and murders all going down at the school up the street, you just may be living in the wrong part of town. You do have a choice of where you live.

              I know I have totally different ideals than 99% of the rest of Cal Gunners (and will surely hear it) but is carrying your .40 cal to the crapper since you are affraid somone may catch you with "your pants down" really a necessary excercise? Heck of a way to live.
              Last edited by joepamjohn; 10-27-2009, 7:52 PM.
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              • #37
                Barney Gumble
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2009
                • 1047

                Originally posted by joepamjohn
                So let me get this straight. You are out mowing the lawn, cleaning the gutters, cooking dinner, watching the big game with your buddies, washing the car, all the while carrying your "rig" in case the pizza guy really isn't who he say's he is? When the door bell rings, you go into "commando" mode to see if it is really an attack or just a solicitor? Do you have your wife "cover" you so you can go out and get the paper?

                I realize that the world can be a pretty cruel place, but at least to me this seems to be a little on the side of over kill (no pun) to me. I would suggest moving to a decent neighborhood and getting some locks, deadbolts, and a quality alarm system to keep your home safe. Maybe get a dog that will bark so you can get to the guns you have hidden in every room.

                If you have to "return fire" four different times from you living room, are frequently burdened by Police helicopters hovering over your house with search lights, or are regularly witnessing drug deals going down at the school down the street, you may be living in the wrong part of town. You do have a choice of where you live.

                I know I have different ideals than 99% of the rest of Cal Gunners (and will surely hear it) but is carrying your .40 cal to the crapper since you are affraid somone may catch you with "your pants down" really a necessary excercise? Heck of a way to live.
                You obviously already know a better way to live so why bother asking?

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                • #38
                  Brianguy
                  Veteran Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 3836

                  Originally posted by joepamjohn
                  I realize that the world can be a pretty cruel place, but at least to me this seems to be a little on the side of over kill (no pun). I would suggest moving to a decent neighborhood and getting some locks, deadbolts, and a quality alarm system to keep your home safe. Maybe get a dog that will bark (or bite) so you can get to the guns you have hidden in every room before the bad guys do. I know that bad things can happen in "nice" areas too, but you may be able to set your mind a little more at ease (probably not).
                  Not all of us can afford to live in a "decent" neighborhood

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                  • #39
                    Spiggy
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Mar 2006
                    • 8688

                    Personally, I do believe if you are resorting to a carried weapon, you've already lost your first line of defense. Your home.

                    Nice neighborhood or not, you can and always should find means to secure your home so that you feel comfortable to go about your day.

                    Simple things like grated windows, a wood block to stop a sliding door, front door peep hole, automatic lights... These things cost very little compared to the possibility of lost of life and security. Once an intruder has overcome these obstacles, it is very clear that their intent is malice.

                    That being said, while my home is in my opinion, fairly well secured. I do still keep an emergency kit, fire extinguisher, security shotgun, carbine, and pistols in different strategic points within my home.
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                    • #40
                      Barney Gumble
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2009
                      • 1047

                      Originally posted by Spiggy
                      Personally, I do believe if you are resorting to a carried weapon, you've already lost your first line of defense. Your home.

                      Nice neighborhood or not, you can and always should find means to secure your home so that you feel comfortable to go about your day.

                      Simple things like grated windows, a wood block to stop a sliding door, front door peep hole, automatic lights... These things cost very little compared to the possibility of lost of life and security. Once an intruder has overcome these obstacles, it is very clear that their intent is malice.

                      That being said, while my home is in my opinion, fairly well secured. I do still keep an emergency kit, fire extinguisher, security shotgun, carbine, and pistols in different strategic points within my home.
                      There's some flawed logic that carrying in your home somehow indicates a failure of all your other security layers.

                      If I have deadbolts, wood blocks in the sliding doors and automatic lights, does adding an alarm system mean I've "lost" all my other layers or that I'm giving in to paranoia?

                      I wear a seatbelt in my car but I also have insurance on my car, health and life. Does that make me paranoid?

                      The thing I think is crazy is people who have a firearm "for home defense" but have never trained with it, and don't have it ready to use, as if they can somehow predict the exact conditions under which they'll need it. This is complete fantasy. It's like saying you only need to put on your seatbelt right before you get into an accident.

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                      • #41
                        Mssr. Eleganté
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                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 10401

                        Originally posted by JayDeeSacramento
                        Officer- "Why are you wearing a holster?"
                        "Because I didn't want to leave this loaded gun unattended."

                        or better yet,

                        "Why are you wearing a holster, officer?"
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                        • #42
                          zeus45c
                          Member
                          • Jan 2008
                          • 457

                          I normally carry concealed when I have something up for sale that can't be easily transported to another location such as a sofa. I have no clue who may be showing up to my place of residence based off an email or pleasant phone conversation.

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                          • #43
                            RogueSniper
                            Veteran Member
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 3749

                            Either Taurus or Glock - it doesn't matter as long as you can draw it swiftly, smoothly, and safely. Shot placement doesn't mean a damn unless you can get your gun out.

                            I live in a decent, safe neighborhood. I just spoke to the Chief of Police tonight and he mentioned that we just had our first homicide in the last 10 years. How's that for safe? Well, crime is crime. Whether it's trespass, burglary, or homicide - it doesn't really matter as long as you're prepared. I've got an alarm system, and the window and doors have sensors that chime if opened. If they want to get in, they will.

                            I used to lived in Sacramento a long time ago. Metal bars on the windows, security gate on the doors. They still got in AND I was in the shower (unarmed, of course). Luckily, they vacated the place when they heard me - I never saw them. Now days when I'm home, I have a loaded firearm in the garage (hidden), my gun is at my bedside, and I carry a Glock in an SOB holster. Why not? I know what it's like to be home and not have any thing close by to defend yourself. If I'm going somewhere, that Glock goes into the car with me in my Gunvault.

                            Originally posted by okimreloaded
                            I've tried to think of a way I could stash a gun outside so that If I came home to someone in the house, I could retrieve it without going to my bedroom. I'm having a brick fence - well a wall built up soon. I was thinking about putting a lockable cubby built into the fence that could hold a shotgun and a pistol.
                            Take your gun with you. Put either a mini GunVault in your trunk or Center of Mass In Car Safe for under your seat.
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                            • #44
                              zo76
                              Junior Member
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 3

                              better safe than sorry...here is a reason to carry a gun around the house

                              Last edited by zo76; 11-08-2009, 7:04 PM. Reason: youtube

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                              • #45
                                locosway
                                I need a LIFE!!
                                • Jun 2009
                                • 11346

                                Originally posted by caoboy
                                Yeah...what is your reasoning behind OC/CC around the house? The house is the one place you should feel safe...
                                At night I sit on the couch with the back door open. Now, I do have a 100lbs dog outside, but someone could easily hop the wall and be in the house before her or I knew wtf was going on. People running from the cops tend to look for an easy place to hide without thinking. I'd rather not have my home be that place to hide, but if it is, then I want to be prepared.

                                What good would a safe full of guns do if someone is in your house? Think you can get to it before you run into them? What about your kids? What if someone smashes their window and has a gun... Do you have time to get your gun out of the safe and respond to their room? What if their room is upstairs and your safe is downstairs in the garage?

                                What if your wife was followed home, and when she opens the door two guys push her through the doorway and they have guns. You aren't carrying your gun because you're "safe" in your home. So now what? Get into a fist fight with two guys that have guns?

                                There are numerous reasons to carry or have a gun within arms reach while you're at home. Now, I know you should feel safe in your home, and I do feel safe there. However, I also know that feeling safe is what gets someone in trouble. Hearing noises from the other end of the house could be the dog or the kids, but it could be an intruder. Never go unprepared, and that doesn't just apply for taking a weapon, it's a mental game too.
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