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  • ChopperX
    Member
    • Oct 2009
    • 381

    I need some guidence

    Hey everyone. I have been wanting to purchase a gun but a rifle since im not 21 yet but im not sure what the process is to get one. My guess is that you just walk in and order what u want and wait for 10 days which is what I have heard. I have shot 3 hand guns at the shooting range by renting and they were a 22lr revolver not sure what brand, a 9mm beretta 92fs and a ruger mark III 22lr (fun pistol) So i have had some experience in guns but not much

    So if someone can give me a link or something to help get me understanding the basics of buying a gun. Thanks for any help.

    I was thinking of getting a Colt M4 22LR Rim fire to start with
  • #2
    Vin496
    Calguns Addict
    • Mar 2008
    • 8804

    Your over 18 right?

    All you do is walk in and buy the rifle you want. You'll need a State issued ID showing you are over 18. You fill out the paperwork and wait your 10 day, then go pick it up.

    That's it, no secret procedures. Only one thing is that you have to buy a complete rifle if your looking at getting an OLL.
    I think it can be confirmed that an alien xenomorph is absolutely no match for good ole' Alabama black snake!

    and

    If you're in a survival movie and the hot blond twists her ankle and can't walk, you damn well figure a way to carry her. If it's a dude, you shake his hand and say "best of luck".

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    • #3
      ChopperX
      Member
      • Oct 2009
      • 381

      Yes I am over 18. Ok now I was wanting to use GalleryofGuns.com to find my gun and have it shipped to an FFL. Is this possible? Now sorry to ask a newbie question but what do you mean by OLL? Also what do you mean by complete rifle?

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      • #4
        Vin496
        Calguns Addict
        • Mar 2008
        • 8804

        Originally posted by ChopperX
        Yes I am over 18. Ok now I was wanting to use GalleryofGuns.com to find my gun and have it shipped to an FFL. Is this possible? Now sorry to ask a newbie question but what do you mean by OLL? Also what do you mean by complete rifle?
        OLL=Off List Lowers, that is how people in California are able to get AR/AK military style rifles. You are young so may not be aware of this situation concerning this. The complete rifle comment was in reference to an OLL. The ATF recently informed some FFLs that people under 21 had to order complete rifles not just receivers.

        It is possible to purchase a rifle from somewhere else and have it shipped to your FFL. Just ask your FFL what they require to complete this, be aware that after shipping and FFL fees you may not be saving that much if anything at all, if money was the reason you wanted to buy from somewhere else.

        Also where are you located?
        I think it can be confirmed that an alien xenomorph is absolutely no match for good ole' Alabama black snake!

        and

        If you're in a survival movie and the hot blond twists her ankle and can't walk, you damn well figure a way to carry her. If it's a dude, you shake his hand and say "best of luck".

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        • #5
          ChopperX
          Member
          • Oct 2009
          • 381

          Oh ok now I understand. I currently am in Southern California. Orange County to be more specific.

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          • #6
            Dr Rockso
            Veteran Member
            • Jan 2008
            • 3701

            Originally posted by ChopperX
            I was thinking of getting a Colt M4 22LR Rim fire to start with
            Just to be sure that you're aware, the Colt .22lr M4 clone is a licensed lookalike made by Umarex, which primarily manufactures airsoft and BB guns. It's made to look like an AR-15, but there is little similarity beyond the cosmetic.

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            • #7
              PutTogether
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2008
              • 2370

              Knock yourself out on Galleryofguns.com Awesome sight, very straightforward. Pick your gun, then pick the store you want to pick it up at. go through the sign up process, and pay the deposit with your credit card. A few days later, the gun store you picked calls you and says "your rifle is here, come get it." You go to the store, pay the balance (which was already quoted up front) and come back 10 days later to pick it up.

              No need to prearrange with the gun store, no hassle, no hidden/extra fees. What you see is what you get.
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              • #8
                devildog999
                Calguns Addict
                • Aug 2008
                • 5534

                Go to the gun shop. Fondle some beauts and decide what you want. They take your prints and info then you pay. You wait 10 days (in these 10 days they are running your info to check for issues) and then go pick it up. Go to range and enjoy

                it's a disease, be prepared. There is no known cure
                Originally posted by TRAP55
                Or your ammo stash has replaced your wifes parking spot in the garage.
                When my neighbor asked what all those crates were, I told him if he sees smoke coming from my garage, and me running down the street......he better catch up!
                Originally posted by Steve O
                Just go to safeway to shop for food. The young good looking couple buying healthy food...they're a new couple. The fat ones wearing ****ty clothes not caring about how they look, getting frozen food...they're married!

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                • #9
                  locosway
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 11346

                  You may want to get a $150 Savage .22 semi auto, or maybe a Mosin for $99.

                  Both will help you learn good shooting techniques, but it doesn't hurt to have someone show you how to shoot.

                  Get something cheap to shoot for your first one, and then from there build what you really want after you're more familiar with the sport.
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                  • #10
                    ChopperX
                    Member
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 381

                    Originally posted by devildog999
                    Go to the gun shop. Fondle some beauts and decide what you want. They take your prints and info then you pay. You wait 10 days (in these 10 days they are running your info to check for issues) and then go pick it up. Go to range and enjoy

                    it's a disease, be prepared. There is no known cure
                    By prints do you mean fingerprints? Have they always done this or is this a new thing?

                    Originally posted by locosway
                    You may want to get a $150 Savage .22 semi auto, or maybe a Mosin for $99.
                    I was looking at a Savage Arms Mark II 22LR Bolt Action. I would get a Mosin but ammo can be costly. 22LR's are so cheap.

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                    • #11
                      locosway
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 11346

                      Originally posted by ChopperX
                      I was looking at a Savage Arms Mark II 22LR Bolt Action. I would get a Mosin but ammo can be costly. 22LR's are so cheap.
                      Savage makes quality rifles, and they're very hard to be beat for the price, in any caliber.

                      I learned to shoot on a .22 semi auto. Many people get a .22 rifle as their first gun. You can and will learn a lot about finger and breath control with a .22 that's not always obvious on a larger caliber rifle.

                      The only limitation on this is range. A .22 just can't compare to other rifle rounds when you're trying to do accurate shooting at distance. This is why I'd recommend the Mosin. If you are just going to hit the range, then a .22 is fine.
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                      • #12
                        peter95
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 2488

                        1. You need to get the gun safety, certificate (take an exam, common sense stuff for handguns)
                        2. Go to a dealer and find the gun you want.
                        3. Some dealers require a minimum deposit to buy the gun, some don't. Some refund your deposit and some don't if you fail. Some require full payment ahead and charge a restocking fee if you fail but in any case, the dros fee for checking background is non-refundable.
                        4. Fill out a detailed paper work and take fingerprint, they perform background check to make sure you don't have any felonies, warrants or a mental problem.
                        5. After all paperwork is done, you have to wait 10 days before picking up your gun. Full 10, 24 hr days.
                        6. If you don't fail the background check, you go pick it up.
                        7. Have fun at the range....
                        Last edited by peter95; 10-19-2009, 1:52 AM.

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                        • #13
                          locosway
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 11346

                          There's no safety license, it's a certificate, and it only applies to handguns, not rifles.
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                          • #14
                            peter95
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 2488

                            Originally posted by locosway
                            There's no safety license, it's a certificate, and it only applies to handguns, not rifles.
                            So picky haha. Updated fixed

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                            • #15
                              locosway
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Jun 2009
                              • 11346

                              He still doesn't need the certificate until he either get's a handgun transfered to him by a family member, or turns 21.

                              He's in the market for a rifle, no HSC needed..
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