utility bill copies as proof of residency

[fd15k]

Guys,

I've stopped paper bills at some point with my gas and electrical companies, and I was
wondering if FFL's would accept a print out (read a "copy") of such bills as proof of residency.
Anyone tried that ?

Thanks!

[CHS]

We do. It should be fine.

Don't ask here though, ASK YOUR FFL. It's acceptable and legal, but that doesn't mean your FFL will take it, and that's all that matters.

[justin_5585]

Mine does it as well. You don't get any other formal mail though? No credit cards, bank statements, etc?

[leelaw]

It fulfills the requirements for establishing proof of residency, and I suspect most FFLs will accept it.

[leelaw]

Mine does it as well. You don't get any other formal mail though? No credit cards, bank statements, etc?

None of those are acceptable statements for establishing proof of residency. Neither are cell phone bills.

[fd15k]

Thanks guys! I will double-check with my favorite FFL

[odysseus]

As easier one perhaps if they get weird about it is if you have a car, truck, or motorcycle. Then you have a current DMV registration.

[fd15k]

I'm not a citizen, got to provide 3 months worth of stuff

As easier one perhaps if they get weird about it is if you have a car, truck, or motorcycle. Then you have a current DMV registration.

[justin_5585]

None of those are acceptable statements for establishing proof of residency. Neither are cell phone bills.

I didn't realize that. I have never had to show more than my CDL to buy though, so that may be why...

[Dekker]

Doesn't apply to your situation but a letter signed by a parent was enough to be a 2nd proof of residency for me. The car is registered to my father(I drive it tho) and I'm living with my parents at the moment so I don't have any utility bills or lease agreements under my name. The FFL said I have to bring a letter signed by a parent stating how long I've been living at the house and that I pay no utilities and that I would be good to go. All I did was write a statement saying all those things and handed it to my Dad to sign. That was it.

When he said that I actually remarked, "What?! My parents?". And he looked at another guy and said, "Yes...hard to believe, but a signed letter is enough proof in CA". Which is good, no reason why a legal law abiding citizen should be banned from owning a handgun just because his parents provide everything for him >_>

[CHS]

I didn't realize that. I have never had to show more than my CDL to buy though, so that may be why...

You must show proof of residency if you are purchasing a handgun or purchasing a long gun and your actual address no longer matches your DL/ID address.

Otherwise, for non-handgun purchases all you need to show is CDL/CID.

[bigthaiboy]

I'm not a citizen, got to provide 3 months worth of stuff

If you are a permanent resident, then you will need to show 3 latest consecutive months utility bills as proof of residence if purchasing / transferring any firearm through a CA FFL01.

I am in the same boat as you, and print out the first page of my Edison utility bill every month out of habit habit, just in case I want to make a purchase. My billing is paperless, so I print the bill from online. Never had a FFL say anything about it.

I always ask the FFL to photocopy my copies of the utility bills so I don't have to keep remembering to reprint the bills.

[Burnout]

fyi,

some accept bank statements instead of ubills.

[leelaw]

fyi,

some accept bank statements instead of ubills.

They shouldn't. Bank statements are not to a physical address, and therefore are not allowed as proof of residency.

[elSquid]

I'm not a citizen, got to provide 3 months worth of stuff

The feds care about the 90 days prior, and credit card statements are expressly permitted:

http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/faq2.htm#b13

This is also mentioned on the 4473... I think it's in the help section for 20(c), but I'm probably wrong about the exact number.

-- Michael