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  • steelrain82
    Veteran Member
    • Jul 2009
    • 3683

    dry firing

    ok since im broke right now, and waiting to get paid. is it ok to dry fire my enfield/garand with spent brass? i know, buy snap caps, but like i said im broke. i never worried about this in the service but now i have to maintain my own weapon so i want to know what i should/shouldnt do.
  • #2
    ocabj
    Calguns Addict
    • Oct 2005
    • 7924

    Just dry fire with an empty chamber.

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    • #3
      steelrain82
      Veteran Member
      • Jul 2009
      • 3683

      Doesn't that mess something up? I thought that was bad for the firing pin.

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      • #4
        SCMA-1
        Veteran Member
        • Mar 2009
        • 4294

        Dry firing is perfectly safe for most firearm designs (with floating firing pins) with the exception of mechanical pin designs such as that used in break open style shotguns.
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        • #5
          Turbinator
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          • Oct 2005
          • 11992

          The spent casing won't help very much. The used primer isn't elastic enough. Eventually the firing pin may pierce the old primer, giving you no impact resistance at all. You might as well dry fire with an empty chamber. Not only that, spent brass (especially necked brass) expands when fired. You might be able to rechamber that spent brass, but it could get stuck in the chamber and then you'd regret it.

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          • #6
            Scarecrow Repair
            Senior Member
            • May 2006
            • 2425

            Originally posted by SCMA-1
            Dry firing is perfectly safe for most firearm designs (with floating firing pins) with the exception of mechanical pin designs such as that used in break open style shotguns.
            Somebody told me it is also bad with rimfire, such as my Henry lever action and 10/22, specifically because the striker is at the edge and presumably smacks into the hard chamber instead of the soft brass.

            OT but sort of related, a friend said you can get center fire bolts for 10/22s. I had thought rimfires had to be struck on the rim, that there is no primer anywhere but the rim, but apparently not so. In this case, if rimfire should not be dry fired, I suppose a center fire striker could be dry fired?
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            • #7
              SCMA-1
              Veteran Member
              • Mar 2009
              • 4294

              Originally posted by Scarecrow Repair
              Somebody told me it is also bad with rimfire, such as my Henry lever action and 10/22, specifically because the striker is at the edge and presumably smacks into the hard chamber instead of the soft brass.

              OT but sort of related, a friend said you can get center fire bolts for 10/22s. I had thought rimfires had to be struck on the rim, that there is no primer anywhere but the rim, but apparently not so. In this case, if rimfire should not be dry fired, I suppose a center fire striker could be dry fired?
              I see what you are saying; the question is does the rimfire firing pin actually move forward far enough to contact the back end of the barrel? If it does, I can see that happening.
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              • #8
                Dr Rockso
                Veteran Member
                • Jan 2008
                • 3701

                Originally posted by SCMA-1
                I see what you are saying; the question is does the rimfire firing pin actually move forward far enough to contact the back end of the barrel? If it does, I can see that happening.
                10/22 can be dry fired without harm according to Ruger.

                Originally posted by steelrain82
                ok since im broke right now, and waiting to get paid. is it ok to dry fire my enfield/garand with spent brass? i know, buy snap caps, but like i said im broke. i never worried about this in the service but now i have to maintain my own weapon so i want to know what i should/shouldnt do.

                I use one of these for dry firing my garand, a lot easier than snap caps.
                Last edited by Dr Rockso; 09-24-2009, 9:51 AM.

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                • #9
                  SCMA-1
                  Veteran Member
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 4294

                  Originally posted by Dr Rockso
                  10/22 can be dry fired without harm according to Ruger.



                  I use one of these for dry firing my garand, a lot easier than snap caps.
                  Got it. Thanks for the info. I was just looking at one of my 10/22's and I dry fired it a bunch of times but didn't see an marks left on the barrel.
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                  Everyone Is a Little Bit Safer Because I Am There.

                  Wherever I Am,
                  Anyone In Need Has a Friend.

                  Whenever I Return Home,
                  Everyone Is Happy I Am There."
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                  • #10
                    Gator Monroe
                    Banned
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 6422

                    Has anyone cracked a lower dry firing/ releasing bolt hold back on an AR build ?

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                    • #11
                      marshaul
                      Member
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 179

                      Originally posted by Scarecrow Repair
                      OT but sort of related, a friend said you can get center fire bolts for 10/22s. I had thought rimfires had to be struck on the rim, that there is no primer anywhere but the rim, but apparently not so. In this case, if rimfire should not be dry fired, I suppose a center fire striker could be dry fired?
                      I'm interested if anybody knows more about this. As far as I know, most rimfire rounds only have primer in the rim.

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                      • #12
                        Scarecrow Repair
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2006
                        • 2425

                        Originally posted by marshaul
                        I'm interested if anybody knows more about this. As far as I know, most rimfire rounds only have primer in the rim.
                        What really intrigues me about this is that my friend claims to have actually done this with his friend's 10/22. But my friend is somewhere out of contact now, relaxing after a tour in Iraq, and I can't ask for details.
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                        • #13
                          steelrain82
                          Veteran Member
                          • Jul 2009
                          • 3683

                          so then dry firing is ok than without anything in the chamber on a centerfire

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