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  • OHOD
    I need a LIFE!!
    CGN Contributor
    • Jan 2009
    • 11047

    At the range today

    I rarely post and generally lurk in the background. Thank you everyone for helping me with a first rate firearms education in California, with that said ...
    here is what happened to me at the range and am seeking opinion.

    I have a S&W MP15T with a holographic sight, Grip Pod bi-pod, 10 round limited 30 round magazine and a bullet button. I have a legal firearm.

    Me...your average gal that believes in 2nd Amendment rights wearing a cap, blue jeans and a ratty old t-shirt.

    The situation...
    While waiting for the range to clear... a fellow came up to me and asked straight out "What makes that AR legal?". He was pale and probably works night shift. Appears fit and carried himself with authority.

    I assumed he was an officer of the law and he did not say he was, just the question.

    I told him that the magazine required a tool to remove and had the bullet button. He mentioned his pre-ban AR and then went about his own business.

    My request...
    Should I have responded differently?
    Was my assumption correct that he was probably an officer?
    Why would you think he asked such a straight up question?

    My questions are to understand, not berate the fellow.

    Thanks everyone,
    Joanne
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  • #2
    damndave
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Oct 2008
    • 10858

    you answered correctly.

    10rd magazine
    not a detachable magazine situation
    mag has to be removed by a tool
    16" barrel
    30" OAL

    so all in all, it is only considered a long gun

    if he was an officer, it was good that he is sorta educating himself

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    • #3
      JDoe
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      • Jul 2008
      • 2421

      Should I have responded differently?
      Your response sounds fine to me.

      Was my assumption correct that he was probably an officer?
      Coin toss.

      Why would you think he asked such a straight up question?
      Perhaps he wants to buy some more EBRs for himself but wants to stay legal.
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      • #4
        hilnap
        Junior Member
        • Sep 2009
        • 74

        You should have said it was not an AR 15 but a centerfire /carbine rifle made by (OLL manufacturer).. Its CA legal because " " ( you got all that right

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        • #5
          CSACANNONEER
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
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          • Dec 2006
          • 44093

          You did fine. It sounds like he knows the laws and was testing you. Not that it makes any difference but, was he just a patron or, did he have some sort of authority at the range? If you were alone, another possibility is that he wanted to see if you are wearing a ring and just used the question as a way to get close enough to look. Anyway, welcome (I know you've been here a while) and feel free to post more often.
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          • #6
            Sam1
            Senior Member
            • May 2008
            • 764

            you did fine, what range was this?

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            • #7
              Greg-Dawg
              Banned
              • Oct 2006
              • 7793

              Originally posted by OHOD
              ... a fellow came up to me and asked straight out "What makes that AR legal?"...
              Answer: "By paying close attention on reading CA gun laws".

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              • #8
                Darklyte27
                Calguns Addict
                • May 2008
                • 9372

                good to go, what range was this?
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                • #9
                  OHOD
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 11047

                  Thanks for everyone's support and very much appreciated.

                  The range was at Livermore and he wasn't a Range Safety Officer or other official.

                  All the RSO's are very cool and offer great advice!

                  Joanne
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                  • #10
                    SCMA-1
                    Veteran Member
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 4288

                    You did well; although you are under no obligation to answer anyone's questions, you were knowledgeable about your personal firearm and non-confrontational. Who knows what his intentions were. Maybe he was just trying to hit on you in his awkward, gun-nerdy way.

                    stay safe,

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                    • #11
                      Vinz
                      Veteran Member
                      • Aug 2008
                      • 2874

                      good job Joanne,

                      I like to carry a few copies of the calguns flow chart with me. I have even been known to pin one up on the post behind my shooting area.

                      If you are going to show up at the SF gunshow you can pick a few up at the Calguns booth. Thats where I got mine. They are sturdy and printed on both sides. Much better than my home printed versions.

                      Always state its a 5.56/.223 semi automatic rifle. Its easier that way.

                      10 to 1 says he was just jealous. LOL
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                      • #12
                        MAC USMC
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 1020

                        Relax, Sweetie, he was just checking you out - - not as a gun owner, but as a good looking lady. Guns, etc. make the most wonderful ice breakers and conversation starters.

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                        • #13
                          Stormfeather
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Jan 2006
                          • 7739

                          Joanne, you did great, no worries. As for if he was an officer or not, I wouldnt have even hazarded a guess at a persons profession.
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                          • #14
                            IsaacGlass
                            Veteran Member
                            • Apr 2009
                            • 2591

                            Originally posted by OHOD
                            I rarely post and generally lurk in the background. Thank you everyone for helping me with a first rate firearms education in California, with that said ...
                            here is what happened to me at the range and am seeking opinion.

                            I have a S&W MP15T with a holographic sight, Grip Pod bi-pod, 10 round limited 30 round magazine and a bullet button. I have a legal firearm.

                            Me...your average gal that believes in 2nd Amendment rights wearing a cap, blue jeans and a ratty old t-shirt.

                            The situation...
                            While waiting for the range to clear... a fellow came up to me and asked straight out "What makes that AR legal?". He was pale and probably works night shift. Appears fit and carried himself with authority.

                            I assumed he was an officer of the law and he did not say he was, just the question.

                            I told him that the magazine required a tool to remove and had the bullet button. He mentioned his pre-ban AR and then went about his own business.

                            My request...
                            Should I have responded differently?
                            Was my assumption correct that he was probably an officer?
                            Why would you think he asked such a straight up question?

                            My questions are to understand, not berate the fellow.

                            Thanks everyone,
                            Joanne
                            Joanne,

                            You answered correctly and Im glad you took the opportunity to answer him as it helps to spread the word regardless of your gender. Knowledge is power.
                            Last edited by IsaacGlass; 09-18-2009, 12:35 AM.

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                            • #15
                              BamBam-31
                              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                              • Dec 2005
                              • 5318

                              You answered well. Great job.

                              As for whether he was an LEO or not, it doesn't matter. Your answer would have been the same either way.

                              You have a nice collection going, btw. Have most of the bases covered, eh?
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