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  • tomd1584
    Calguns Addict
    • Sep 2008
    • 5895

    Ammo for Carbine classes?

    Hey guys,

    i'm looking at taking my first carbine class soon. Are there any requirements on ammo? I have been shooting silverbear and golden bear for plinking, since its fairly inexpensive and I have quite a bit of it. my rifle runs it no problems too.

    My question is, should I get better quality ammo, or can i take this stuff to a class? Would i be prohibited because of range restrictions because of this ammo?

    Thanks in Advance.
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    Josh3239
    Calguns Addict
    • Dec 2006
    • 9196

    I know some carbine courses have banned steel case ammo, their reasoning is if it messes up your rifle it will slow down the rest of the class. I always put good quality ammo through my rifles and wouldn't think of putting junk through it during a carbine course especially. If you are really truly interested call or email the company or the instructor and see what they recommend.

    Some food for thought about using quality at these courses - funny story from James Yeager at Tactical Response:

    Student: "My gun has never done this before!"
    Yeager: "Really!? Have you ever shot a thousand rounds a day in the pouring rain until the handguards nearly melted off or caught on fire all while doing counter-ambush drills in six inches of mud with 21 other guys?"

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    • #3
      Greg-Dawg
      Banned
      • Oct 2006
      • 7793

      Originally posted by tomd1584
      Hey guys,

      i'm looking at taking my first carbine class soon. Are there any requirements on ammo?...should I get better quality ammo, or can i take this stuff to a class? Would i be prohibited because of range restrictions because of this ammo?

      Thanks in Advance.
      What are ammo restrictions from your Carbine class? I'd first read the class descriptions before signing up.

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      • #4
        tomd1584
        Calguns Addict
        • Sep 2008
        • 5895

        What are ammo restrictions from your Carbine class? I'd first read the class descriptions before signing up.
        I haven't signed up for a specific class yet, so I guess my question is a general one, to people who have taken classes before. Obviously I have emailed the instructors, just waiting for their response but wanted to hear from other calgunners.

        Thanks, Tom

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        • #5
          SCMA-1
          Veteran Member
          • Mar 2009
          • 4288

          Speaking of James Yeager.......

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          "Wherever I Walk,
          Everyone Is a Little Bit Safer Because I Am There.

          Wherever I Am,
          Anyone In Need Has a Friend.

          Whenever I Return Home,
          Everyone Is Happy I Am There."
          - "The Warrior Creed" ~ Robert L. Humphrey

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          • #6
            Greg-Dawg
            Banned
            • Oct 2006
            • 7793

            Originally posted by tomd1584
            I haven't signed up for a specific class yet, so I guess my question is a general one, to people who have taken classes before. Obviously I have emailed the instructors, just waiting for their response but wanted to hear from other calgunners.

            Thanks, Tom
            Yes, very general. Just await the instructor's reply and share it.

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            • #7
              joelogic
              Calguns Addict
              • May 2008
              • 6593

              AR15 barrels posted a great write up about ammo. The short of why brass is good and steel is bad is that steel does not expand and contract like brass. So on a hot day after several high round count drills I riped the rim off of a wolf case. I had to clear the gun and force the case out with a cleaning rod, all while everyone else was shooting. So if you are taking a serious training class splurge on some good brass. If you are shooting from a bench, shoot wolf (steel) all day.
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              • #8
                bruss01
                Calguns Addict
                • Feb 2006
                • 5336

                If you have the option, shoot in the class EXACTLY what you would shoot in real life. When you go to the range, you tend to be very careful and also make excuses because you are by yourself and no one there to serve as the reality check. Taking a class will force brutal honesty on you - exactly how well does your firearm handle your chosen ammo? You may get a lot of jam clearing practice. If so, that will teach you something you otherwise wouldn't have known. Or your rifle may eat this stuff up with a spoon and ask for more. But I strongly encourage you not to take a class with some kind of premium ammo just to save face, and then turn around and use something cheap for real-world defense. If your gun won't handle the ammo you choose to stockpile, then you have to change your mind regarding either the gun or the ammo. Sounds simple but can actually be a tough choice if you have thousands of $ committed. Tough choice but a necessary one IMHO. Good luck with the class, hope you learn lots.
                The one thing worse than defeat is surrender.

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                • #9
                  Federalist
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2009
                  • 553

                  Originally posted by Josh3239
                  Student: "My gun has never done this before!"
                  Yeager: "Really!? Have you ever shot a thousand rounds a day in the pouring rain until the handguards nearly melted off or caught on fire all while doing counter-ambush drills in six inches of mud with 21 other guys?"
                  When the government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. -- Thomas Jefferson

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