Saw this headline...

[MrFeetZ]

I saw this headline

https://ktla.com/news/local-news/300k-ar15-rifle-90-pounds-of-weed-seized-from-24-year-old/amp/

And genuinely curious if possessing any of those three things is actually illegal??? Sure, when you get to like the end of article it mentions scary ghost gun, but I feel pretty confident that's not why he was a suspect. Like, is having $300,000 cash a crime???

Stupid f'n media.

[zinfull]

The ghost gun looks like a CA defined AW, collapsible stock and regular grip.

[sealocan]

Tell me they didn't pull out that brass Marlin tube magazine to make it look longer, like it holds more rounds or is scarier somehow.


That gives me a million dollar idea, that anyone here can have, where you just sell Long brass or steel ammo tube extensions, that come with a long spring that will work with it for the millions of people who in States (like California) that have no limits on tube style ammo magazines.

Somebody with one of those rifles handy calculate how long a 100 round mag tube would have to be?

[Imageview]

Pretty sure that 90lbs of weed was not for recreational use.

[yacko]

Pretty sure that 90lbs of weed was not for recreational use.

Doesnt matter if he was growing or selling to legal cannibis shops.

It *could* be perfectly legal business.

[DaveInOroValley]

Pretty sure that 90lbs of weed was not for recreational use.

Knew a guy in high school where that would be a 2 week supply.

[Quiet]

And genuinely curious if possessing any of those three things is actually illegal??? Sure, when you get to like the end of article it mentions scary ghost gun, but I feel pretty confident that's not why he was a suspect. Like, is having $300,000 cash a crime???

Under Federal laws...

A person that uses, grows, or possess marijuana is a prohibited person that cannot legally acquire or possess any firearms or ammunition. [18 USC 922(g)(3)]
^The majority of Federal Appeals Courts have upheld.

A person that possess $10,000 or more in cash, can legally have all of that cash seized due to it automatically being considered to be illegally obtained money. [Comprehensive Forfeiture Act of 1984]
^In order to prevent the initial seizure, the possessor needs to have documentation from a financial institute showing that the exact amount of money was legally obtained (bank withdrawal receipt, W2G tax papers, etc).
~Since the mid-1980s, all of the Federal Courts have upheld that any LE agency can legally do this. No probable cause, reasonable suspicion, or intent is required; simple possession is enough evidence/proof for seizure. It is on the possessor to prove the money was legally obtained in order to legally get it back.

Under CA laws...

It is illegal to self-make a firearm without CA DOJ approval. [PC 29180(g)]

It is illegal to possess a self-made unmarked firearm. [PC 23920(b)]

It is illegal to make an assault weapon. [PC 30600(a)]

It is illegal to possess an assault weapon. [PC 30605]

[Imageview]

Doesnt matter if he was growing or selling to legal cannibis shops.

It *could* be perfectly legal business.

Except this wasn?t, as was mentioned in the linked article. Hence personal use was the only conceivable defense, and notwithstanding Dave?s buddy from highschool that?s a pretty significant amount. Now you may believe it should be completely unregulated, I personally don?t have a solid opinion if it should or not, but it?s certainly illegal to have unregulated grows for commercial purposes on a state level and definitely on a federal.

So a drug dealer got popped with guns and cash. Not really sure where the interest is here.

[Featureless]

There is no crime without a victim. Where is the victim?

[Quiet]

There is no crime without a victim. Where is the victim?

In this incident, the Government has claim of being the victim to the crimes.

[MrFeetZ]

Wow, look at you Quiet with all your facts! Thanks for the info.

Under Federal laws...

A person that uses, grows, or possess marijuana is a prohibited person that cannot legally acquire or possess any firearms or ammunition. [18 USC 922(g)(3)]
^The majority of Federal Appeals Courts have upheld.

A person that possess $10,000 or more in cash, can legally have all of that cash seized due to it automatically being considered to be illegally obtained money. [Comprehensive Forfeiture Act of 1984]
^In order to prevent the initial seizure, the possessor needs to have documentation from a financial institute showing that the exact amount of money was legally obtained (bank withdrawal receipt, W2G tax papers, etc).
~Since the mid-1980s, all of the Federal Courts have upheld that any LE agency can legally do this. No probable cause, reasonable suspicion, or intent is required; simple possession is enough evidence/proof for seizure. It is on the possessor to prove the money was legally obtained in order to legally get it back.

Under CA laws...

It is illegal to self-make a firearm without CA DOJ approval. [PC 29180(g)]

It is illegal to possess a self-made unmarked firearm. [PC 23920(b)]

It is illegal to make an assault weapon. [PC 30600(a)]

It is illegal to possess an assault weapon. [PC 30605]

[MrFeetZ]

Honestly, it was the headline, not the story. The headline seems a bit sensational. Headline mentons $300k cash. I legit didn't know it was "wrong" to carry more than $10k cash without documentation. Second, headlined said AR15. Again an item by itself isn't illegal. However, one had to go into the story to learn it was a "ghost" gun. And third; headline said marijuana. Again, in of itself not illegal and I swear, first time I read the headline it did NOT say 90lbs. So, to me it was like headline said "man arrested for possessing three legal items".

So a drug dealer got popped with guns and cash. Not really sure where the interest is here.

[Quiet]

And third; headline said marijuana. Again, in of itself not illegal and I swear, first time I read the headline it did NOT say 90lbs. So, to me it was like headline said "man arrested for possessing three legal items".

FYI.

Under Federal laws...

Possession, manufacture/growing, transporting, and transfer is still illegal, regardless of the amount.


Under CA laws...

Possession of less than 1 oz and growing less than six plants was decriminalized for a person age 21 or older.

Possession of any amount by a person under the age of 21 is still illegal.

Possession of more than 1 oz is illegal for any person who does not have a valid CA DOCC license.
^A person with a valid Medical Marijuana Card is granted an exemption that allows them to possess up to 1 lbs.

Growing more than five plants is illegal for any person who does not have a valid CA DOCC license.
^A person with a valid Medical Marijuana Card is granted an exemption that allows them to grow up to 12 plants.

Transporting or transferring more than 1 oz is illegal for any person who does not have a valid CA DOCC license.
^A person with a valid Medical Marijuana Card is granted an exemption that allows them to transport or transfer up to 1 lbs.

CA Department of Cannabis Control has five different types of license, each one determines what type of activity can be legally done with the marijuana under the control of the license holder.
^A Medical Marijuana Card is different than the CA DOCC license.

[homelessdude]

As is always the case when Ca. says they are going to legalize something it really means they are going to control it with dozens of stupid laws. Real legalization means no Gov. involvement.