Tip Jar at the Gun Range? What do you think?

[2muchsoysauce4allthisrice.no-good510]

Sounds legit.

I would tip. If they give me a deal or threw in a free target. I'll give them what the target was worth. If I paid cash and they give me a deal on entry, I would give them the other half of the total. If they just took my money and did there job. I'll pass

[2muchsoysauce4allthisrice.no-good510]

Not necessarily. What if you never asked for it? What if they somehow just knew that you liked it? And you somehow just started appreciating their compliments to you; so, you started complimenting back by tipping better. Somehow it just happened more often. It?s not your fault and it?s not their fault. A good server or customer service representative knows their customer well. What if they gave you all the ones that you don?t like? Oh, a fat fart shart no!

Hey, it?s a win-win situation. Everyone is happy. Management and workers are not at a loss either. They have business and tips coming in anyways. They don?t care either because in their eyes you are a ?good customer?. So, what is there to lose for both sides?

Like any business, they usually treat repeat customers better than just a one timer. It?s like that even at a gun store.

Ever had a gun store that gave you free ammo, hooked you up with something, or some kind of side service (they would usually charge for) before because you are a good repeat customer that is a not a ram rod pain in the butthole?

But, with any business at that point; they have already made money off of you to do that. It’s a business; nothing is for free.

^^^ so it's more of a bribe than a gratuity.

[SDDAVE56]

I used to keep a few of those fortunes, you get in fortune cookies in my wallet. Might have to do that again, for those "Tip Jars". Here's your "Tip".

[divingin]

"A gratuity is a sum of money customarily given by a customer to certain service sector workers such as hospitality for the service they have performed, in addition to the basic price of the service."

I'm well aware of how "tipping" is defined.

I'm also well aware that, at the range I shoot at, the RSO's (usually) are not confining themselves to taking money and handing out targets. There is a good amount of information exchange, instruction (both safety and operational), as well as dispensing of other information, assisting with malfunctions, and generally keeping the customers safe from other customers.

If you are basing your opinion solely on the range you frequent, and can't see that other ranges may be better (or worse) than where you go, I'd say you have a pretty narrow view of life.

[LBDamned]

Tip someone doing their job, otherwise you're narrow minded.

[SISKIN]

Well when I was a member at LAX they did have a tip jar on the range side. A lot of times they would not charge me for targets and sold me more ammo that I could use in my time on the range. That was a way around the Background check thing. Many years ago I did work in the service industry, so I get the thing about tips. Guess it's just my way of paying it forward.

[The Gleam]

I'm well aware of how "tipping" is defined.

I'm also well aware that, at the range I shoot at, the RSO's (usually) are not confining themselves to taking money and handing out targets. There is a good amount of information exchange, instruction (both safety and operational), as well as dispensing of other information, assisting with malfunctions, and generally keeping the customers safe from other customers.

If you are basing your opinion solely on the range you frequent, and can't see that other ranges may be better (or worse) than where you go, I'd say you have a pretty narrow view of life.

Well, I had to explain what tipping was, because you stated some odd expression that gratuity was different from tipping so it appears you didn't get the definition. But I'm glad to see you now realize it's the same thing.

As for ranges, ridiculous assumption on your part. Dozens of ranges in CA over the course of 30 years... (even thinking about buying one at the moment.)

Yet, I WOULD be inclined to directly tip a range officer for the reasons you've cited, but not for their inclination to help others - that's just their job - but that's NOT what we are talking about. We are talking about a 'jar' placed with expectation, a badge of entitlement, as seen so many other places now days, typically by the counter-monkey that is the least to deserve it whether they imply it's shared among all employees or not.

In that case, NO - not all employees deserve it, least of all the counter monkey - which is essentially what we are discussing here, not whether any particular employee deserves a tip or not. That is the primary theme and message running through the course of this thread.

Can the jar - it's bullcrap.

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[LBDamned]

Whoever owns (and/or manages) the place must endorse it... otherwise they'd tell their employee(s) to get rid of that crap.

[2muchsoysauce4allthisrice.no-good510]

Seems like you may still perceive that kind of scenario as bribery; not gratuity?

Tip someone doing their job, otherwise you're narrow minded.

[2muchsoysauce4allthisrice.no-good510]

I hear that on the mean streets; that is called “free game”

I used to keep a few of those fortunes, you get in fortune cookies in my wallet. Might have to do that again, for those "Tip Jars". Here's your "Tip".

[2muchsoysauce4allthisrice.no-good510]

It is nice to drive around to try out other ranges to see what ranges tickles our pickle; kind of like trying out different diners and restaurants.

I'm well aware of how "tipping" is defined.

I'm also well aware that, at the range I shoot at, the RSO's (usually) are not confining themselves to taking money and handing out targets. There is a good amount of information exchange, instruction (both safety and operational), as well as dispensing of other information, assisting with malfunctions, and generally keeping the customers safe from other customers.

If you are basing your opinion solely on the range you frequent, and can't see that other ranges may be better (or worse) than where you go, I'd say you have a pretty narrow view of life.

[2muchsoysauce4allthisrice.no-good510]

Well, as long as you are buying it during range time; it is allowed.

Sounds like they hooked you up on the targets.

Yeh, same on the service industry experience. It has taught me to treat others in customer service jobs with respect. It actually helps in having a better experience when being on the customer end; while having that previous experience before on the customer service end. That’s just what I think.

Well when I was a member at LAX they did have a tip jar on the range side. A lot of times they would not charge me for targets and sold me more ammo that I could use in my time on the range. That was a way around the Background check thing. Many years ago I did work in the service industry, so I get the thing about tips. Guess it's just my way of paying it forward.

[2muchsoysauce4allthisrice.no-good510]

You make a good point.

“Alright, let’s just try to get you guys some dirty stripper dollars? Just please don’t pop that booty on the counter please?”

“Ok”

Whoever owns (and/or manages) the place must endorse it... otherwise they'd tell their employee(s) to get rid of that crap.

[2muchsoysauce4allthisrice.no-good510]

Man, you could make some money off owning a range….

Well, I had to explain what tipping was, because you stated some odd expression that gratuity was different from tipping so it appears you didn't get the definition. But I'm glad to see you now realize it's the same thing.

As for ranges, ridiculous assumption on your part. Dozens of ranges in CA over the course of 30 years... (even thinking about buying one at the moment.)

Yet, I WOULD be inclined to directly tip a range officer for the reasons you've cited, but not for their inclination to help others - that's just their job - but that's NOT what we are talking about. We are talking about a 'jar' placed with expectation, a badge of entitlement, as seen so many other places now days, typically by the counter-monkey that is the least to deserve it whether they imply it's shared among all employees or not.

In that case, NO - not all employees deserve it, least of all the counter monkey - which is essentially what we are discussing here, not whether any particular employee deserves a tip or not. That is the primary theme and message running through the course of this thread.

Can the jar - it's bullcrap.

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[KrizB]

I'll drop some money in a donation/charity jar at the range but not a tip jar.
Not unless one of the guys has big titties and brings a plate of hot wings