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  • #16
    sealocan
    Calguns Addict
    • Mar 2012
    • 9950

    In regards to the question that the op asked...

    "Where can I store it away from home economically?"

    If you mean the actual cabinet or shelf for storage I'll suggest metal filing cabinets, or if you're looking or something bigger and still want to spend no money there are always free refrigerators and broken or old safes on Craigslist in the free section.
    (In fact I recently saw modern good size safe that looked like it was in perfect shape except the electronic lock didn't work anymore.)

    That way even if there's a fire you'll get a little more protection for your ammo and powder.

    but if you're asking for the location like a self storage place or someone who rents out lockers, I don't think they allow powder storage.

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    • #17
      baih777
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      CGN Contributor
      • Jul 2011
      • 5680

      Refridgerator or old safe needs to be vented. Or it turns into a bigger bomb.
      Or the doors must not lock.

      There are hazerdous material cabinets. Expensive.
      Been gone too long. It's been 15 to 20 years since i had to shelf my guns. Those early years sucked.
      I really miss the good old Pomona Gun Shows.
      I'm Back.

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      • #18
        Tarmy
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Feb 2016
        • 4024

        I too have a remote storage location at a second home. I store many thousands of rounds in a detached garage, in a secure storage cabinet away from most everything else. I have never worried about it. As mentioned by others, if there is a fire it is not in the main home and vehicle storage locations.
        Wilson Protector .45, Springer 9mm Loaded, Franchi Instinct SL .12ga. and some other cool stuff for the kiddos...

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        • #19
          Quiet
          retired Goon
          • Mar 2007
          • 30241

          Originally posted by mikeyr
          Originally posted by edgerly779
          Black powder is an explosive. max you can have is 1 pound. Do you have proper storage for your powder per regs.
          5lbs is max
          At least that is what the fire marshal told me, 1lb would not cover my 3 types of BP I need, FFFFG, FFFG, FFG

          And all my powder is in a wooden box, 1 1/4" thick even though regs says 1" I had 1 1/4 handy, no lock/latch on the top
          Applicable CA laws, regarding the possession of black powder and smokeless power...

          Health and Safety Code 12000
          or the purposes of this part, "explosives" means any substance, or combination of substances, the primary or common purpose of which is detonation or rapid combustion, and which is capable of a relatively instantaneous or rapid release of gas and heat, or any substance, the primary purpose of which, when combined with others, is to form a substance capable of a relatively instantaneous or rapid release of gas and heat. ?Explosives? includes, but is not limited to, any explosives as defined in Section 841 of Title 18 of the United States Code and published pursuant to Section 555.23 of Title 27 of the Code of Federal Regulations, and any of the following:
          (a) Dynamite, nitroglycerine, picric acid, lead azide, fulminate of mercury, black powder, smokeless powder, propellant explosives, detonating primers, blasting caps, or commercial boosters.
          (b) Substances determined to be division 1.1, 1.2, 1.3, or 1.6 explosives as classified by the United States Department of Transportation.
          (c) Nitro carbo nitrate substances (blasting agent) classified as division 1.5 explosives by the United States Department of Transportation.
          (d) Any material designated as an explosive by the State Fire Marshal. The designation shall be made pursuant to the classification standards established by the United States Department of Transportation. The State Fire Marshal shall adopt regulations in accordance with the Government Code to establish procedures for the classification and designation of explosive materials or explosive devices that are not under the jurisdiction of the United States Department of Transportation pursuant to provisions of Section 841 of Title 18 of the United States Code and published pursuant to Section 555.23 of Title 27 of the Code of Federal Regulations that define explosives.
          (e) Certain division 1.4 explosives as designated by the United States Department of Transportation when listed in regulations adopted by the State Fire Marshal.
          (f) For the purposes of this part, ?explosives? does not include any destructive device, as defined in Section 16460 of the Penal Code, nor does it include ammunition or small arms primers manufactured for use in shotguns, rifles, and pistols.

          Health and Safety Code 12101
          (a) No person shall do any one of the following without first having made application for and received a permit in accordance with this section:
          (1) Manufacture explosives.
          (2) Sell, furnish, or give away explosives.
          (3) Receive, store, or possess explosives.
          (4) Transport explosives.
          (5) Use explosives.
          (6) Operate a terminal for handling explosives.
          (7) Park or leave standing any vehicle carrying explosives, except when parked or left standing in or at a safe stopping place designated as such by the Department of the California Highway Patrol under Division 14 (commencing with Section 31600) of the Vehicle Code.

          Health and Safety Code 12102
          This chapter does not apply to any possession or use of 20 pounds or less of smokeless powder, or one pound or less of black sporting powder, provided that:
          (a) Smokeless powder is intended only for hand loading of small arms ammunition of .75 caliber or less.
          (b) Black sporting powder is intended for loading of small arms or small arms ammunition of .75 caliber or less.
          (c) All such powder is for private use and not for resale, and, in the case of black sporting powder, there shall be no gift, delivery, or other disposition to another person.
          (d) The storage, use and handling of such smokeless and black powder conforms to rules, regulations, or ordinances of authorities having jurisdiction for fire prevention and suppression in the area of such storage, use, and handling of such explosives.

          Health and Safety Code 12150
          Except for explosives kept only at an explosive manufacturing plant, no person shall possess, keep, or store any explosive which is not completely encased in a tight metal, wooden, or fiber container, or a container approved by the Interstate Commerce Commission.
          No person having any explosives in his possession or control shall under any circumstances permit or allow any grains or particles of such explosives to be or remain on the outside of, or about, the containers in which such explosives are kept.

          Health and Safety Code 12303
          ?Lawful possession of an explosive,? as used in this chapter, means possessing explosives in accordance with the stated purpose and conditions of a valid permit obtained pursuant to the provisions of this part, unless such person is specifically excepted from the permit requirements by the provisions of this part.

          Health and Safety Code 12305
          Every person not in the lawful possession of an explosive who knowingly has any explosive in his possession is guilty of a felony.

          Health and Safety Code 12351
          Any explosives which are illegally manufactured, sold, given away, delivered, stored, used, possessed, or transported shall be subject to immediate seizure by any chief, issuing authority, or peace officer authorized to act under Section 12020. When a permit issued pursuant to this part has expired and is not immediately renewed, any explosives in the possession of the permittee shall be subject to immediate seizure by any chief, issuing authority, or peace officer authorized to act under Section 12020, unless first destroyed by the permittee in accordance with Section 12087.
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