Making a collapsible hk91 stock fixed? Any suggestions?

[Armed-Citizen]

Always liked the hk91 with a collapsible stock . Anyone know of any methods to make the collapsible stock fixed? Or is roll pin through one collapsing rail the only option?

[Quiet]

Other options that I have seen... (early-2000s)
~The stock is fully extended in the open position, then the rails are welded in place at the end cap.
~The stock is fully extended in the open position, then the stock release lever is cut off & welded over or welded in place so that it can no longer move.

[scamp62]

Please do not Cali-Fu@k a good stock!! just replace it with a fixed stock, and save the collapsible, they switch out very easily.

[Romeo_alpha01]

I'd preserve the G3 collapsible given how much they're worth compared to any surplus fixed stock.

[BigPimping]

HK 91? Isn?t that banned by name? You were probably one of those lucky people that got one in the 80s and turned it into an RAW. Those things are worth a mint.

[Regular guy]

Do not ruin a $275-$600 stock. Just buy a plastic stock complete with buffer and keep your collapsible intact. Keep the A3 for “out of state use”.

[CAL.BAR]

HK 91? Isn?t that banned by name? You were probably one of those lucky people that got one in the 80s and turned it into an RAW. Those things are worth a mint.

Well, if that is the case, he doesn't need to pin the collapsible stock as it is already a RAW. Chances are he has a chance to get one and is trying to make it CA legal without realized there is NO way to do that and fixing the stock is not going to do it.

[sigstroker]

Do not ruin a $275-$600 stock. Just buy a plastic stock complete with buffer and keep your collapsible intact. Keep the A3 for ?out of state use?.

Or buy a Turkish clone. If they will ship it to you.

https://atlanticfirearms.com/MKE-G3-A3-Buttstock

I never liked that stock. It looks like it would ride up your shoulder and smack you in the face.

[Regular guy]

Or buy a Turkish clone. If they will ship it to you.

https://atlanticfirearms.com/MKE-G3-A3-Buttstock

I never liked that stock. It looks like it would ride up your shoulder and smack you in the face.

I included that stock in my post. That?s why I started my price range for the stock at $275. German, Turkish, it?s still lame to ruin a stock that?s that expensive. I?m my book anyway. The stock doesn?t ride up, but it?s sure not the most comfortable to shoot certainly not worth making it fixed. But collapsed it?s amazing for cqb, clearing rooms, etc. I have 4 diff stocks for my PTR, an M4 style, side folding choate, an A3 like the one we are discussing welding , and a plain plastic fixed.

[Tim padilla]

Side folder from Choate is the moves.. in a different state. Don’t ruin that stock , get a fix stick like most are saying .

[Mongoos913]

I could be wrong, but does it still matter if its over 30" in length? I think if you have an 18" barrel it would be.

[Quiet]

I could be wrong, but does it still matter if its over 30" in length? I think if you have an 18" barrel it would be.

CA SBR laws requires a rifle to have an overall length of 26" or greater. [PC 17170(b)]

CA assault weapons laws for rifles requires a semi-auto centerfire rifle to have an overall length of 30" or greater. [PC 30515(a)(3)]

Overall length is measured with the rifle in the shortest possible fireable configuration (stock folded/collapsed) and non-permanently attached muzzle device removed. [11 CCR 5471(x)]

Therefore...

If a semi-auto centerfire rifle has an overall length of less than 26", then it is considered a SBR.

If a semi-auto centerfire rifle has an overall length of greater than 26" and less than 30", then is is considered an assault weapon.

[Mongoos913]

CA SBR laws requires a rifle to have an overall length of 26" or greater. [PC 17170(b)]

CA assault weapons laws for rifles requires a semi-auto centerfire rifle to have an overall length of 30" or greater. [PC 30515(a)(3)]

Overall length is measured with the rifle in the shortest possible fireable configuration (stock folded/collapsed) and non-permanently attached muzzle device removed. [11 CCR 5471(x)]

Therefore...

If a semi-auto centerfire rifle has an overall length of less than 26", then it is considered a SBR.

If a semi-auto centerfire rifle has an overall length of greater than 26" and less than 30", then is is considered an assault weapon.

Great info TY.

[splithoof]

As a collector and user of Oberndorf (HK) 91 variations, I can tell you that the A3 variant is most certainly more about portability and transport than it is about actually using for shooting. Spend a few days in class with one, and you will be right back to a fixed stock (A2). Also, the rails of the A3 do not allow for a good cheek-weld when using an optic.
As others have said, do not ruin an original A3 stock, but get a cheaper clone to hack on.
Not sure why anyone would want a fixed-collapsible stock for that, other than looks. It sure is not practical for much else.

[splithoof]

Other options that I have seen... (early-2000s)
~The stock is fully extended in the open position, then the rails are welded in place at the end cap.
~The stock is fully extended in the open position, then the stock release lever is cut off & welded over or welded in place so that it can no longer move.

While that may make the A3 variant truly fixed, anyone who would do that to an original HK is likely a democrat. Yes, that is intended to be an insult of the harshest kind, limited to what can be said on a public forum.